Jun 23, 2026 Commissioners Court

NOW GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF RECOGNITIONS.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO REMIND EVERYONE WE DO HAVE A, A PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS.

UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM, WE HAVE A PARTICIPATION FORM AVAILABLE OUT IN THE LOBBY.

IT'S, UH, BEHIND THE DOORS TO MY RIGHT OR TO YOUR LEFT.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JUST FILL OUT THAT FORM AND THEN, UH, GIVE IT TO OUR COUNTY CLERK, CRYSTAL VALDEZ.

SHE WILL GET IT TO ME AND WE WILL BE SURE TO CALL UPON YOU WHEN THAT AGENDA ITEM IS UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

UH, THE FIRST RECOGNITION IS RECOGNITION OF THE ELLIS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR RECEIVING A TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION DISTINGUISHED SERVICE AWARD FOR 2025.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE DAVID, SASHA, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

ANY OF YOU THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME ON UP, UH, FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

HI, DAVID.

HI.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU AND THE GROUP BACK.

SO IF YOU WANNA COME ON UP AND JUST TELL US ABOUT THIS AWARD A LITTLE BIT AND, AND THE IMPORTANT THINGS YOU'RE DOING.

CERTAINLY THE, UH, CHAIR OF THE COUNTY HISTORICAL DIVISION, AND I'LL JUST SAY ABOUT THIS AWARD, THAT AWARD THAT'S GIVEN GRANT BY THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR SERVICE FOR 2020.

THIS IS THE FIFTH YEAR IN AWARD THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THIS AWARD.

SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

HAVE THIS REPUTATION.

AGAIN, UH, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE, UH, YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AT A COUNTY LEVEL WITH A HANDFUL OF OUR ARE VOLUNTEER APPOINTEE HERE, UH, WHO'VE BEEN VERY BUSY IN THIS PAST YEAR, WHICH IS WHAT'S BEEN RECOGNIZED.

UH, UH, THE, PROBABLY THE MOST VISIBLE THING THAT YOU SEE OF THE WORK THAT WE DO IS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TEXAS INTERNAL PROGRAM.

AND, UH, WE JUST, THIS PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'VE HAD TWO DEDICATIONS OF MARKERS, UH, ONE, SO HALL RIGHT FOR OF OUR STAFFORD IN ITALY, JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND.

UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER FOUR MARKERS IN PROCESS IN PRODUCTION, UH, HOPEFULLY SOMETIME THE NEXT YEAR.

GREAT.

AND THEN WE'VE SUBMITTED THREE ALLOCATIONS FOR REVIEW.

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SO WE HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD ON THAT AND SPECIAL ATTENTION TO MARKET CHAIR'S, THE ONE WHO HAS SUCH A GREAT BATTING RECORDS FOR US, AND ALSO BELL, WHO IS TIRELESS IN MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY REPRESENTED.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN, I'LL DEBRIEF, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE, UH, INVOLVED IN THIS YEAR IS SUPPORTING THE ELLIS COUNTY RURAL HERITAGE FARM AND THEIR APPLICATION TO BE NAMED, UH, A TEXAS SITE, WHICH RIGHT NOW IT'S A NOT-FOR-PROFIT HELD, UH, FARM THAT DOES EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS JUST WEST OF HERE.

UH, AND, UH, WE'RE IN THE SECOND STATE PROCESS, UH, DECISION TO GO TO THE THIRD STAGE SHOULD BE MADE, UH, AGAIN AT THE END OF JULY.

WE'RE, WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL FOR THAT.

AND WE THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WRITTEN OF SUPPORT THAT YOU PROVIDED AS WELL.

GUESS ONLY I'LL MENTION ONE IS, UH, WE LOOK FOR SOMETHING WE HELP SPONSOR OR SUPPORT WAS A DEDICATION OF A BENCH 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF OUR NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE AND DEDICATED TO RIGHT PARADE.

UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, THIS YEAR THE, UH, MUSEUM IN AUSTIN AND, UH, COMMISSION ARE COMMEMORATING THE 25TH YEAR OF THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

OUR COURTHOUSE, THIS COURTHOUSE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO HAVE BEEN, UH, GONE THROUGH THAT PROGRAM IN THOUSAND ONE AND WE'RE EXHIBITING A, UH, DISCOVERED DURING THE RESTORATION.

SO I BELIEVE IT'S THERE, BUT THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UH, THANK, THANK YOU DAVID, AND, AND I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU, UH, WHAT YOU DO.

AND, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WAS THAT, THAT FRAGMENT FROM THE COURTHOUSE, THAT'S ACT ACTUALLY ON DISPLAY IN THE BULLOCK MUSEUM, IT, IT LOOKS VERY FRAGILE.

AND THE BULLOCK MUSEUM ASKED US FOR SOMETHING FROM THE COURTHOUSE TO DISPLAY AND, UH, WE LOANED IT TO THEM, OF COURSE, DIDN'T GIVE IT TO THEM, BUT, UH, DAVID PERSONALLY DROVE IT DOWN TO AUSTIN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T BROKEN .

AND, AND SO THAT KIND OF DEMONSTRATES THE LEVEL OF DEDICATION.

YEAH, YEAH.

SO, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, THAT'S AWESOME.

GOOD.

GOOD WORK.

GOOD JOB.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, COULD I ASK YOU, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU.

WE HAVE ONE MORE RECOGNITION, WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THE PODIUM TWICE, IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST STANDING OFF TO THE SIDE AND THEN WE WILL, UM, TAKE A PICTURE AFTER THIS NEXT RECOGNITION.

OUR NEXT, UH, RECOGNITION IS R TWO, AND THAT IS RECOGNITION OF LANDRY NIGHT AND LONDON NIGHT FOR SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING THEIR RESPECTIVE BOY SCOUT EAGLE PROJECTS AND ACHIEVING THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT AND LANDRY IN LONDON.

WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR DAD TO COME UP WITH YOU? HE'S WELCOME TO COME AS WELL.

OR PERHAPS YOU WANT THE SPOTLIGHT JUST ON YOU.

THAT'S OKAY.

E EITHER WAY IS FINE.

HEY, THANKS GUYS.

THANKS FOR COMING UP.

NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND, FIRST OFF, YOU'RE TWINS, I WANNA MENTION THAT.

AND YOU BOTH, I THINK RECENTLY, UH, GRADUATED IN MAY OR OR JUNE FROM, UH, HIGH SCHOOL.

AND, UH, YOU'RE HEADED OFF TO COLLEGE AND YOU, UH, EARNED YOUR EAGLE SCOUT I I THINK OFFICIALLY ON JUNE 6TH.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S GREAT.

WHAT AN HONOR.

AND, UM, I KNOW THAT TAKES YEARS OF, OF DEDICATION, COMMUNITY SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY A GREAT DEMONSTRATION OF WHERE YOU'RE AT AND, AND EVEN GREATER INDICATION OF, OF WHAT YOUR FUTURE HOLDS.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU.

DO YOU MIND TELLING US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROJECTS AND THEN PERHAPS YOUR FUTURE PLANS WHERE YOU'RE HEADED OFF TO COLLEGE? MY PROJECT WAS FOR, AND I MADE GOOD BAGS FOR KIDS THAT ARE IN FOSTER CARE.

SO WHENEVER KID GETS TO A NEW, THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE SUPPLIES AT ALL.

SO I, FOR OLDER KIDS OR NOTEBOOKS, PEN.

AND THE BIG PART WAS THE BAG THAT THEY OLDER KIDS, THEY, THEY MIGHT HAVE A BAG, SO A BIG DOUBLE BAG FOR KIDS.

IT WAS, AND TOTAL 14 FOR ALL SUPPLIES.

AND, AND WHERE, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS? UM, MY PLAN IS TO GO TO UTSA AND CYBERSECURITY.

AH, VERY GOOD.

VERY GOOD.

THAT'S PROBABLY A GREAT FIELD

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TO GO INTO.

I WOULD THINK SO.

AND, AND YOU'RE LANDRY, RIGHT? I I LONDON, I'M SORRY.

I HAD A 50 50 CHANCE AND STUCK OUT YEAH.

FOR THE JUDGE IN, AND SO I, WHAT THEY SAID AND THEY SAID THESE, UH, THESE CHILDREN, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN LIFE FROM THEIR FAMILIES FROM THE HOUSE AND A BOOK CAN'T TAKE FOR TAKE OFF.

THAT'S GREAT.

WELL CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

THAT'S A WONDERFUL PROJECT.

AND WHAT, WHAT DO YOU HAVE COMING UP FOR THE FALL? YES, SIR.

SO TOMORROW ACADEMY.

OH, GREAT.

THAT THAT'S VERY EXCITING.

YEAH, THAT'S VERY EXCITING.

I KNOW IT'S KIND OF A, A TOUGH START, BUT I, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'VE SHOWN THE DEDICATION AND, UH, COMMITMENT THAT YOU NEED TO, TO GET THROUGH THAT FIRST LITTLE BIT OF THE NAVAL ACADEMY AND REALLY THE ENTIRE FOUR YEAR PERIOD.

AND, UH, THANKS FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO, UH, PURSUE A MILITARY CAREER.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

ALRIGHT, SO IF YOU DON'T MIND GUYS, WE HAVE SOME CERTIFICATES FOR YOU AND WE'LL TAKE SOME PICTURES.

DO YOU WANT TO, UH, MAYBE TAKE ONE INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN, THEN ONE TOGETHER WITH US? OKAY.

HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO COME BACK? WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU.

WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA TAKE A PICTURE WITH US.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO, UH, OUR, THE REST OF OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES ITEMS A ONE THROUGH A 12 AND ITEMS F1 THROUGH F EIGHT.

AND ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL, EXCUSE ME, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE VOTE.

WE DO, HOWEVER, HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM F EIGHT.

SO I'M GONNA PULL THAT ONE OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO PULL AN ITEM FROM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WOULD CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS A ONE THROUGH A 12 AND F1 THROUGH F SEVEN.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ZIKE TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS. AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

NOW TAKE UP ITEM F EIGHT, WHICH IS A LINE ITEM, A FISCAL 2026 LINE ITEM TRANSFER TO DECREASE, UH, LINE ITEM 0 1 8 0 9 0 8 5 9 9 9 8 0, WHICH IS THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE RESTORATION

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? HEARING NO OPPOSITION ITEMS A ONE THROUGH A 12 AND F1 THROUGH F SEVEN ARE APPROVED.

UNANIMOUS.

OKAY, WE'LL

[F.8 FY26 Line-Item Transfer. - County Judge John Wray]

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BY $967,700.

AND TO INCREASE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 OTHER BULLET POINTED ITEMS, UH, RELATED TO, UM, EQUIPMENT HARD COSTS FOR JP TWO SUB COURTHOUSE HARD COSTS AND ADMIN BY AN ADMIN, FURNITURE FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT FOR JP TWO SUB COURTHOUSE AND FURNITURE FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE COURTS AND ADMIN BUILDINGS, ALL OF WHICH ADD UP TO THAT SAME AMOUNT OF $967,700.

OKAY, WE HAVE, UH, KATHLEEN BOWEN.

MS. BOWEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK MS. BOWEN? IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, IF YOU WILL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN SHARE WITH US YOUR COMMENTS.

KATHLEEN BOWEN, 5 27 WEST JEFFERSON STREET, AND I JUST HOPE THAT YOU WOULD RECONSIDER DECREASING THE COURTHOUSE RESTORATION BUDGET BY ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS.

UM, THIS BUILDING NEEDS MORE RESTORATION WORK THAN ANY OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS.

IT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS THE CENTER OF OUR, OF OUR COUNTY, AND I THINK IT NEEDS THE MONEY, IT NEEDS THE MONEY TO BE RESTORED IF YOU KEEP UP AT ALL WITH DALLAS CITY HALL.

AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE OF YEARS OF NEGLECT OF NOT RESTORING AND NOT PUTTING IN THOSE MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT BUILDINGS BECOME DILAPIDATED AND PEOPLE SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA TEAR THIS OLD BUILDING DOWN.

LET'S TAKE CARE OF IT EVERY YEAR.

WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT EVERY YEAR.

WE NEED TO ADD MONEY AND DO THE MAINTENANCE WORK SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME DILAPIDATED BECAUSE THIS IS OUR HISTORIC COURTHOUSE.

WE DON'T WANT JUST LITTLE PIECES OF IT GOING TO AUSTIN.

WE WANT IT TO BE HERE FOREVER.

SO PLEASE RECONSIDER AND TAKE CARE OF THIS COURTHOUSE.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

GOING THANK YOU.

AND, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION, UH, COMMISSIONERS, OF COURSE.

UH, THAT LINE ITEM IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET WAS MATCHING FUNDS FOR STATE GRANT, UH, TO, UH, DO A MAJOR, NOT A MAJOR RENOVATION, BUT SOME, SOME REHAB AND SOME, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE ON THE COURTHOUSE.

AND OF COURSE, WE, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT GRANT.

WE'RE NEARING THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

SO, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT'S BEING REALLOCATED TO OTHER SPOTS.

ADDITIONALLY, UH, THE BUILDING IS FULL , IT'S FULL OF EMPLOYEES AND THE NATURE OF THE WORK THAT IS NECESSARY AND NEEDED, UH, WOULD BE QUITE DISRUPTIVE AT THE CURRENT TIME.

THERE IS, OF COURSE, A ANOTHER BUILDING UNDER CONSIDERATION THAT MAY BE, UH, PURCHASED IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAT WOULD BE MORE ACCOMMODATING TO A SIGNIFICANT MAINTENANCE PROJECT ON THIS BUILDING.

SO I AGREE WITH MS. BOWEN.

IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF OUR COUNTY AND, UH, ONE OF THE MOST WELL KNOWN AND PHOTOGRAPHS BUILDINGS IN THE ENTIRE STATE.

AND WE DO WANT TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

THIS IS REALLY JUST A TEMPORAL THING THAT THE, THE CIRCUMSTANCES NOW, UH, DO NOT ALLOW US TO DO THAT, BUT HOPEFULLY THEY WILL IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F EIGHT.

SO MOVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM F EIGHT FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

IS THERE A SECOND? AGAIN? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STINSON.

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? UH, HEARING NO OPPOSITION ITEM F EIGHT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND OUR FIRST ITEM WILL BE ITEM 1.1, WHICH IS DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND ACTION ON A VARIANCE REQUEST TO VOLUME ONE, SECTION FOUR A REGARDING THE MINIMUM PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARCEL ID NUMBER 3 0 4 0 0 7, WHICH IS A, AN APPROXIMATELY 13 POINT 12 ACRE SITE LOCATED APPROXIMATELY FIFTY TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WILSON ROAD AND EBENEZER ROAD, LOCATED IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF WAXAHATCHEE ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT NUMBER ONE, ALBERTO.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA AND WE FIRST HAVE OUR DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT ITEMS, AND I WOULD ASK OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT, ALBERTO MAREZ TO COME UP AND JOIN US AND SPEAK TO US ON THOSE ITEMS. HI, ALBERTO.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

[1.1 Discussion, consideration, and action on a variance request to Volume I, Section IV (A) regarding the minimum public road frontage requirements for Parcel ID No's 304007. This± 13.12-acre site is located ± 5,235 feet southwest of the intersection of Wilson Road and Ebenezer Road, located in the extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Waxahachie, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 1.]

YES, THE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS REQUEST IS, UH, FOR ROAD FRONTAGE VARIANCE.

A SURVEY SHOWED THAT THE PROPERTY ONLY HAS 105 FEET OF ROAD FRONTAGE, UH, FALLING SHORT, 45 FEET OF THE REQUIRED MINIMUM, UH, REQUIREMENT.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON, ON THE, UH, MAP, UH, THEY CANNOT PURCHASE ANY ADDITIONAL PROPERTY WITHOUT CAUSING OTHERS TO FALL OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS, UH, VARIANCE REQUEST, SUBJECT TO THREE CONDITIONS.

UH, THE, THE FIRST ONE, IF THE, IF ANY FURTHER SUBDIVISION SHALL OCCUR, THEY WILL REQUIRE A PLA MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND EFFECT AT THAT TIME.

AND NUMBER TWO,

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THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST APPLIES TO MAXIMUM TWO ADDITIONAL HABITABLE STRUCTURES AND ANY SUBSEQUENT STRUCTURES WILL REQUIRE ANOTHER VARIANCE SO STAFF DOESN'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THOSE THREE CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ALBERTO? UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THIS IS, UH, A SINGLE PLAT THAT WILL REMAIN IN THE ORIGINAL OWNER'S NAME, CORRECT? UH, EVEN THOUGH TWO SIBLINGS WILL BE BUILDING HOUSES ON 'EM, THEY CAN'T SELL 'EM SEPARATELY.

CORRECT? WHATEVER SALES THEY ALL HAVE TO SELL AS ONE.

CORRECT? IT'LL ALL BE ONE.

AND MEET THE THREE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU ALREADY, THEY'VE ALREADY FULFILLED THOSE MM-HMM .

MAKE MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER STINSON TO APPROVE ITEM 1.1 AS PRESENTED WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ZEKE.

WE'LL NOW TAKE UP ITEM 1.2, WHICH IS DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND ACTION ON A REPL OF STEWART'S PROPERTY LOTS.

ITEM 1.1 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[1.2 Discussion, consideration, and action on a replat of Stewart's Property, Lots 1A & 1B, Block 1. The ± 3.001-acre site is located at the intersection of Curtis Ray Road and Baucum Road, Midlothian, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 3.]

ONE A AND ONE B BLOCK ONE.

THIS IS AN APPROXIMATELY, APPROXIMATELY 3.001 ACRE SITE THAT IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF CURTIS RAY ROAD AND BAUM ROAD IN MIDLOTHIAN OR IN MIDLOTHIAN ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT NUMBERS THREE.

ALBERTO? YES.

THE ORIGINAL APPLIED FOR THIS PROPERTY WAS APPROVED BY COURT BACK ON MAY 9TH, 2017.

UH, THE APPLICANT NOW WISHES TO SPLIT IT INTO TWO LOTS, SO BASICALLY CREATING ONE ADDITIONAL LOT, UH, THE YARD, MEETING THE RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS ON THE THIRD FLOOR PLAN FOR CURTIS RAY ROAD.

UH, ENA VISTA BETHEL IS THE WATER PROVIDER.

UH, WITH THIS BEING A REPLY, IT DID REQUIRE NOTIFICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER THREE TIMES THAT HAPPENED.

UH, UH, MAY 27TH, JUNE 3RD AND JUNE 10TH ON THE WEBSITE.

UH, MAY 22ND.

AND WE DID SEND OUT ONE CERTIFIED NOTICE.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF SUBJECT TO FOUR CONDITIONS.

ALL OF THEM, UH, VERY GENERAL, UH, IN NATURE.

THANK YOU ALBERTO.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ALBERTO? SO YOU SAY THESE ARE JUST MINOR CONDITIONS? YEAH.

AND BASICALLY ONE OF 'EM IS TO LIST THE ATCH ETA BOUNDARY UPDATE, THE FRONT SETBACK LINE AS SOME CORRECTIONS ON THE SIGNATURE BLOCK.

AND ALSO THEY HAVE THE ORDINANCE NUMBER THAT'S, THAT TOOK IT OUTTA THE ETJ.

THEY GOT TO SOME NUMBERS INCORRECT.

SO JUST MINOR FIX THOSE? YEAH.

MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COM.

COMMISSIONER, UH, PONDER TO APPROVE ITEM 1.2 WITH THOSE, UH, STAFF CONDITIONS.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BUTLER.

OUR PURCHASING PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.

ITEM 1.2 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ALBERTO.

THANK YOU ALBERTO.

OKAY, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO

[2.1 Discussion, consideration, and action to enter an lnterlocal Agreement to provide Comprehensive Inmate Medical at the Ellis County Jail and possible approval for the County Judge to execute the agreement upon final legal review. Options for service include The University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB) and CorrHealth.]

AND I WOULD ASK, UH, OUR DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING EJ HARBIN TO JOIN US TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM 2.1, DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO ENTER INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE INMATE MEDICAL AT THE ELLIS COUNTY JAIL AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE, THE AGREEMENT UPON FINAL LEGAL REVIEW.

OPTIONS FOR SERVICE INCLUDE, UH, THE U, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS MEDICAL BRANCH, UTMB AND CORE HEALTH AND EJ, BEFORE YOU SPEAK ON IT, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS QUITE A BIT.

I THINK THAT, UM, BASED UPON, YOU KNOW, JUST THE SCOPE OF WORK AND, UM, THE, THE COST OF THIS SITUATION THAT EVERYONE'S KIND OF GRAVITATING TOWARD THE UTMB PROPOSAL.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? YES, SIR.

I THINK THAT, UH, I SPOKE TO THE DEPARTMENTS TODAY AND THEY'RE VERY CLOSE ON THE, THE FINAL CONTRACT WORDING.

SO WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS THAT.

AND, AND JUST TO KIND OF REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY, WE WERE CLOSE TO ACTING ON IT PREVIOUSLY, BUT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH SORT OF LIABILITY EXPOSURE UNDER THE UTMB CONTRACT.

DID WE GET THAT FULLY HAMMERED OUT? OUR BROKER HAS LOOKED AT IT, PROVIDED A POLICY, AND THEN SHE SAID SHE IS AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS THAT IF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS IN EXECUTIVE, UH, SHE'S NOT HERE, BUT CAN DO THAT BY PHONE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT, UM, SHE SAID WE SHOULD BE FULLY, WE WOULD BE FULLY COVERED COMMISSIONERS.

WE DID, UH, CROSS POST THIS AS A POSSIBLE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM UNDER, UH, 5 5 1 0.071 SUBSECTION TWO OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE FOR A CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL.

I THINK POSSIBLY REGARDING THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT GENERALLY, BUT ESPECIALLY THE, UH, LIABILITY EXPOSURE ISSUE.

DOES ANYONE CARE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACT ON GO TO EXECUTIVE? OKAY.

UH, AND, AND I, I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY, UH, PRUDENT THING TO DO.

SO WE WILL NOT TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM NOW, AND WE WILL RECALL IT AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[P.1 Public hearing regarding the installation of a stop sign at the intersection of Dunkerley Road and Cooke Road within Road and Bridge Precinct 2.]

MOVE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE, EXCUSE

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ME, ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM UP IS A, A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ON A STOP SIGN.

THAT WOULD BE ITEM P ONE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE INSTALLATION OF A STOP SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUNKER LEE ROAD AND COOK ROAD WITHIN ROAD ROADIN BRIDGE PRECINCT TWO.

UH, ZACH, UH, GARRICK WILL COME UP AND, AND SPEAK TO US ON THIS ITEM, UH, BEFORE WE, UH, ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK.

UH, ZACH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND TAKE A MOTION TO ENTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ENTER THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ZEKE.

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? UH, HEARING NO OPPOSITION? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

ALRIGHT, ZACH, DO YOU WANNA TELL US REAL QUICK ABOUT THE STOP SIGN? YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER ZEKE CONTACTED ME ABOUT A SAFETY CONCERN AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUNKLEY ROAD AND COOK ROAD.

UH, WE LOOKED INTO IT A UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTION, AND WITH THE INCREASED OF DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE AND THE MOTORPLEX, UH, RILING TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT, WE FIGURED IT WAS BE A, A SAFETY ISSUE AND DECIDE TO RECOMMEND TO PUT IT IN THERE.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, ZACH, AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER BUTLER, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY, AYE.

SO WE'LL NOW TAKE UP ITEM 3.1, WHICH IS DISCUSSION, , CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE INSTALLATION OF A STOP SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUNKERLEY ROAD AND COOK ROAD WITHIN ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT NUMBER TWO.

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

[3.1 Discussion, consideration, and action regarding the installation of a stop sign at the intersection of Dunkerley Road and Cooke Road within Road and Bridge Precinct 2. - Ellis County Engineer Zach Gerich]

AND, UH, ZACH'S ALREADY TOLD US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS LIKE ZACH SAID WITH ALL, SORRY.

LIKE ZACH SAID, WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE AND WHATNOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A NEED FOR IT FOR SURE.

AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC CALL THE OFFICE AND, AND ASK ABOUT IT BEFORE I TOOK OFFICE AND EVEN SINCE I'VE TAKEN OFFICE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 3.1.

SO MOVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 3.1 FROM COMMISSIONER ZIKE.

IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STINSON.

ITEM 3.1 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE WILL NEXT MOVE TO

[P.2 Public hearing for the proposed amendments to the County's Flood Damage Prevention Order, last adopted September 30th, 2026. These amendments specifically address the required finished floor elevations for structures located in designated floodplain zones.]

A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS ITEM P TWO, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE COUNTY'S FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDER LAST ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026.

THESE AMENDMENTS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE REQUIRED FINISH FLOOR ELEVATIONS FOR STRUCTURES LOCATED IN DESIGNATED FLOOD ZONES.

SO BEFORE ZACH SPEAKS ON IT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND TAKE A MOTION TO ENTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM, FROM COMMISSIONER ZIKE TO ENTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BUTLER.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? HEARING NO OPPOSITION? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

ZACH, REAL QUICK, MIGHT WANT A CORRECTION.

SO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026.

OH YEAH, THAT'S NOT, UH, OF 2025.

THAT'S THAT.

THAT'S IN THE FUTURE.

DO WE, DO WE? YEAH.

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE EXACT DATE OR CAN? I'M SURE KEITH IS PERHAPS LOOKING IT UP OR NO, THE DATE WAS, IT WAS, UH, OH.

DO YOU KNOW ZACH? SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025.

THE LAST ONE WE ADOPTED.

2025.

SO THIS, THIS IS, UH, TO UPDATE THAT FLOOD COUNTY'S FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDER THAT WAS LAST ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025.

OKAY, GO AHEAD ZACH.

THE YES, THE LAST UPDATED, UM, PREVENTION ORDER, UH, ADDRESSED, UH, SIDE OF THE PENALTY CLAUSE IN THE TEXAS WATER CODE.

WE UPDATED THIS, UM, BACK IN MARCH 31ST OF THIS YEAR.

WE UPDATED OUR DRAINAGE STANDARDS AND VOLUME TWO, UM, THAT CHANGED ANY HOUSES FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATIONS BUILT IN, UH, FLOOD ZONE INCREASE FOR THREE FOOT IN THE UNSTUDIED AREA TO TWO FOOT IN THE STUDIED AREAS.

AND WE'RE BRINGING THE AMENDMENTS TO THE FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDER TO BE CONCURRENT WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S, WE'RE ASKING THE COURT TO APPROVE THAT.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING EITHER.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MOVE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BUTLER.

AND WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 3.2, WHICH IS, UH, DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND ACTION TO AMEND THE ELLIS COUNTY FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION ORDER LAST

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? HEARING NO OPPOSITION? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED

[3.2 Discussion, consideration, and action to amend the Ellis County Flood Damage Prevention Order, last adopted September 30th, 2026, under Minute Order 429.25, to update Article 5, Sections B and D increasing the minimum finished floor elevations for Zones AE, Zones A, and Zones AO/AH. -Ellis County Engineer Zach Gerich]

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ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, UNDER MINUTE ORDER 4 29 0.25 TO UPDATE ARTICLE FIVE SECTIONS B AND D, INCREASING THE MINIMUM FLOOR ELEVATIONS FOR ZONES AE AND ZONE A AND ZONES A OH SLASH AH, ZACH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO OFFER? NOTHING.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR ZACH? I DON'T THINK WE, THIS IS JUST UPDATE ON YOU.

JUST UPDATE MATCH OR CODE? YEAH, I'LL MAKE MOTION.

I'LL MAKE SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 3.2 FROM COMMISSIONER BUTLER AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

WHICH IS DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RENEW OR MODIFY THE CURRENT COUNTY AND RETIREE HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE AND PREMIUMS THROUGH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND EMPLOYEE BENEFITS POOL FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 THROUGH 2027, INCLUDING APPROVAL FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN THE RENEWAL.

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? UH, HEARING NO OPPOSITION ITEM 3.2 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, ZACH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM 3.3,

[3.3 Discussion, consideration, and possible action to renew or modify the current County & Retiree Health Insurance coverage and premiums through the Texas Association of Counties and Employee Benefits Pool for the Fiscal Year 2026-2027, including approval for the County Judge to sign the renewal. - Interim Human Resources Director Norma Luna and Chief of Staff Erik Test]

AND WE HAVE FIVE V FROM , THE HR DEPARTMENT FOR US.

I KNOW THAT, UH, SHARON IS, OR NORMA RATHER IS, IS OUT THIS WEEK FOR A PLAN TO, I THINK, CONTINUING EDUCATION EVENT.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, UM, HERE TO PRESENT THE 26 27 FISCAL YEAR BENEFITS RENEWAL.

THIS INCLUDES OUR MEDICAL, DENTAL AND VISION ALONG WITH OUR WELLNESS INCENTIVES.

I BELIEVE THREE OPTIONS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU ALL AND YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE A COPY ON YOUR DESK.

COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU MAY, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, LITTLE ONE PAGER THAT WAS PRESENTED.

AND, UH, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE HAD THE WORKSHOP, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO.

WE DID HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THAT KIND OF RESULTED IN, IN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL OPTIONS ON THE DEDUCTIBLE AND THE MAX OUT OF POCKET.

SO KIND OF SUMMARIZE IT, A COUPLE OF THINGS ARE THE COST OF THE VISION INSURANCE DOES NOT CHANGE THE INCENTIVES, I BELIEVE, FOR BEING TOBACCO FREE AND FOR IN COMPLETING YOUR ANNUAL PHYSICAL.

DO NOT CHANGE THE DENTAL INCREASES BY 6.6% IF THE COUNTY ABSORBS THAT ENTIRE AMOUNT, IT'S JUST A LITTLE SHORT OF $30,000.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THEN ABOVE PROBABLY THE, THE, UH, THE TOP PORTION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

I THINK THAT THAT YIELDED THE MOST DISCUSSION.

UM, SO WE HAVE ONE IS TO, TO RENEW WITH OUR CURRENT, UH, DEDUCTIBLE AND MAX OUT OF POCKET, WHICH IS, WHICH IS HOW MUCH, DO YOU MIND REMINDING ME THE CURRENT DEDUCTIBLE? I THINK THE, THINK IT'S A THOUSAND THOUSAND.

I THINK IT'S A THOUSAND THOUSAND.

OUT POCKET IS THREE IS THREE.

AND UH, IF WE ABSORB, IF THE COUNTY ABSORBS THE ENTIRE COST OF THAT, IT'S $521,000.

YES SIR.

A LITTLE OVER.

SO WE COULD ABSORB THAT ENTIRE COST OR ABSORB A PORTION OF IT OR ABSORB NONE OF IT.

AND THEN YOU OF COURSE CAN SEE THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS THERE.

IF WE LOWER THE DEDUCTIBLE TO 750 AND LOWER THE MAX OUT OF POCKET TO 2000, THE OVERALL COST IS A LITTLE OVER $959,000.

IF WE LOWER THE DEDUCTIBLE TO 600 AND LOWER THE MAX OUT OF POCKET TO 2,500, THE COST IS JUST SLIGHTLY OVER A MILLION.

SO COMMISSIONERS, WHAT DO YOU THINK BANI? I'D LIKE ONE MORE CLARIFICATION.

ON THE DEDUCTIBLES, UH, IF IT'S A HUSBAND AND A SPOUSE, IT'S GONNA BE $6,000.

YES SIR.

AND BUT IF IT'S A WIFE OR IF IT'S A ONE SPOUSE AND CHILDREN, IT GOES TO $9,000.

THAT IS CORRECT.

CORRECT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT IS CORRECT.

SO IF YOU CARRY YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT 3000, 3000 FOR MEMBER THAT IS ON YOUR PLAN.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU, I THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO, TO BRING SOME OF THIS BACK.

I WAS, I WOULD BE MORE IN FAVOR OF THE NUMBER TWO.

FROM MAYOR COMMISSIONER, YOU, YOU'RE STILL PAYING A LITTLE HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE, BUT YOUR MAX OUT OF POCKET IS, IS WOULD BE BETTER DOWN THE ROAD FOR YOU.

YEAH, YEAH.

DEDUCTIBLES EASIER FOR, FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO SWALLOW.

ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, IT'S STILL GONNA BE A BIG BUY 7, 7 50 BUCKS.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY LAYING AROUND, RIGHT? YEAH.

SIX OUTTA POCKET, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO, SAY A PERSON, MAYBE THEIR HUSBAND'S PASSED OR WHATEVER AND SHE'S STILL GOT KIDS, HERS IS STILL GONNA STICK TO 9,000 FOR TWO PEOPLE.

UH, ANY OTHER, ANY THOUGHTS? WELL, I'D, I'D LOOKED AT WITH WHERE WE'RE AT BUDGET WISE, UNLESS WE START LOOKING AT, AT SOME STRONG IDEAS AS FAR AS RAISING TAXES THAT UH, IF WE DO THE SAME AS WE DID LAST YEAR AS FAR AS DEDUCTIBLES, EVEN THOUGH $9,000 SOUNDS UNREASONABLE TO ME.

I MEAN, ME AND MY WIFE DON'T PAY

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IF YOU JUST GOT ONE KID AT THE SAME PRICE AS IF YOU GOT A CASKET FULL OF THEM.

CORRECT.

YES SIR.

SO, RIGHT.

THAT'S AN INSURANCE DEAL THOUGH.

IT'S NOTHING, NOTHING THAT WE CAN CHANGE, RIGHT.

JUST THE WAY THEY DO IT.

BUT, UH, MY THOUGHTS WAS TO THE COUNTY TO COMPLETELY ABSORB THE, THE COST.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT ANOTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR NO MORE THAN WE'RE GAINING TO LOWER THE DEDUCTIBLE BY, BY $500, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? UH, IT WOULD LOWER THE DEDUCTIBLE BY YOU GOING TO THE BY 250.

IT WOULD DEDUCT LIKE THE THIRD YOUR, WELL, YOUR MAX OUT OF POCKET, IT WOULD BE DEDUCTING A THOUSAND.

IT WOULD TAKE A THOUSAND OFF THE MAX OUT OF POCKET AND 250 OFF THE DEDUCTIBLE.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO TO KIND OF GET, PUT A LITTLE COLOR ON THAT, WE DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFIED APPRAISAL ROLE, UH, YET, OF COURSE.

BUT ASSUMING THE TAX RATE STAYED THE SAME, UH, BASED UPON THE BEST GUESS AT THIS STATE OF THE APPRAISAL AND PROTEST PROCESS, WE WOULD THINK WE'D GET ABOUT 10 TO 11 MILLION MORE DOLLARS OF, OF REVENUE.

SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE GO TO OPTION NUMBER TWO AND WE FULLY ABSORB IT, WE'D BE SPENDING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT 10 TO 11 ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE ISSUE.

I JUST, I JUST PUT IT OUT THERE.

YEAH, IT'S, I THINK IT'S A FAIR POINT.

IT'S SIGNIFICANT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS, THE COUNTY'S ALWAYS REALLY TRIED TO TAKE CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BENEFITS.

UH, AND WE, WE DID DO THE SALARY SURVEY THAT KIND OF GOT THE SALARIES UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW.

TO ME IT JUST, THE EMPLOYEES ARE PRETTY IMPOR IMPORTANT.

THEY TAKE CARE OF US, SO I SURE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

SO IF, I MEAN ANYTHING YOU DO LESS, ANYTHING YOU DO LESS, YOU'RE TAKING MORE OUTTA THEIR POCKET.

AND AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, IT'S COMING OUTTA OUR POCKET THIS YEAR.

AND FUEL COST FOOD, FOOD COST HAS GONE THROUGH THE ROOF.

UM, BLESS YOU.

SO IT'S, IT'S A, THE PROBLEM WITH ME, ME BEING IN GOVERNMENT, I ALWAYS RAN A BUSINESS WHERE THAT YOU KNEW WHERE YOU WERE AT ALL THE TIME.

THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU'RE IN GOVERNMENT, YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOUR TAX ROLL IS COMPLETE.

BLESS YOU.

YEAR TO YEAR IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU GOT.

SO YOU THROW THE DARTS AT IT.

AND SOMETIMES IT PUTS US IN A BIND, BUT AS USUAL, UM, I'M ONE PERSON ON THE COURT , AND I ALWAYS TRY AND GO ALONG WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES BECAUSE I THINK MORE HEADS THAT ARE POSITIVE, THEN HE CAN WIPE OUT THE NEGATIVES.

SO YEAH, REAL QUICK, THE, THE OUT OF POCKET, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A ACCUMULATION OF, UH, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE TO GO, SOME GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND YOU HAVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS DEDUCTIBLE.

YOU PAY THAT A THOUSAND AND THEN YOU'VE SEEN THE DOCTOR, YOU'VE HAD DOCTOR VISITS THAT COUNTS INTO THAT.

CORRECT.

YOUR DOCTOR VISIT COSTS.

AND SO EVENTUALLY WE OVERALL COST, WHEN YOU HIT 3000 OR 2000, WHATEVER IT IS, THEN YOUR BILLS ARE PAID A HUNDRED PERCENT.

IS THAT THE WAY IT WORKS WITH THE YEAH.

IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

WELL, OKAY.

SO, SO EXCEPTION OF LIKE 30 COPAY TOWARDS WHAT YEAH.

EXCEPT THE COPAY.

BUT I MEAN, ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE COPAY, LIKE IF YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR AND YOU HAVE LABS DONE, THOSE LABS COME BACK, YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT ON TOP OF THE RIGHT WOULD BE DOCTOR VISIT.

YOU WON'T HAVE TO ONCE YOU'VE MET THE OUT OF POCKET, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

OUT OF, OKAY.

WELL, I, I, UH, THROUGH BOTH OUR, OUR DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING AND, AND THE WORKSHOP AND EVERYTHING, I HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN A VIBE OF ANY CONSENSUS FROM, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS ON WHAT THEY MAY BE GRAVITATING TO.

UM, I WOULD, I WOULD GRAVITATE TO THE NUMBER TWO, NUMBER TWO ITSELF.

BUT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S SIMPLY YOU.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE DEDUCTIBLES A LITTLE HIGHER, BUT YOUR OUT OF POCKET, DOWN THE ROAD WOULD BE OKAY.

SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, LOWER, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I KIND OF SENSE THAT THERE'S A WILLINGNESS TO ABSORB THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF THE INCREASE.

JUST WHETHER WE'RE AT NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO.

UM, UH, DOES ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE, THE NUMBER TWO HERE, THE SEVEN 50 DEDUCTIBLE WITH A 2000 MAX OUT OF POCKET AND, AND THAT THE COUNTY AND THAT THE COUNTY ABSORBED THE ENTIRE, IT CAN ABSORB THE TOTAL AMOUNT.

MAY I ASSUME COMMISSIONER BUTLER, THAT THE COUNTY WOULD ALSO ABSORB THE INCREASE IN THE DENTAL COST.

WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER BUTLER TO APPROVE OPTION NUMBER TWO ON THE RENEWAL.

THAT WOULD BE LOWERING THE DEDUCTIBLE TO $750 AND THE MAX OUT OF POCKET TO 2000.

UH, AND, UM, THE COUNTY ABSORBS THE ENTIRE PROPOSED INCREASE, WHICH IS PROJECTED TO BE $959,000, $959,174 AND 16 CENTS.

AND, UH, AS PART OF THAT, I WOULD ASSUME,

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THAT WOULD BE THE, WE COULD STICK TO THE SAME PLAN.

UH, SO WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MAKE THE SECOND? SURE.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I'M JUST, I WAS DOING SOME MATH HERE REAL QUICK.

SORRY.

SO THE THIRD OPTION WAS A $600 DEDUCTIBLE, AND THAT'S ONLY 50,000 MORE THAN THE SECOND OPTION IF I DID MY MATH.

IT DOES INCREASE THE OUT OFP POCKET THOUGH.

IT INCREASES THE OUT OF POCKET BY 2,500.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN PEOPLE MEET THE OUT-OF-POCKET.

THAT'S, I THINK THE, I THINK GOING FROM SEVEN 50 TO SIX IS PROBABLY BETTER FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAN, THAN DROPPING THE OUT, YOU KNOW, DROP THE OUT OF POCKET 500 AS OPPOSED TO A THOUSAND.

THE 600 WAS ORIGINALLY WHAT I WAS AFTER, BUT YEAH, AFTER LOOKING AT THE MAX OUT OFP POCKET, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, YOU'RE SAVING MORE IN THE LONG RUN ON THAT IF YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEY, YEAH, IF IT COST ABOUT THE SAME, IT'S JUST A TRADE OFF BETWEEN DEDUCTIBLE VERSUS MAX OUT OF POCKET.

YOU GOT SEVERAL KIDS IF YOU GOT SEVERAL KIDS THAT MAX OUT OF POCKET STARTS ADDING UP.

IF, YOU KNOW, $500 GOES A LONG WAY IF YOU GOT FOUR KIDS, SURE.

YOU GOTTA MEET 'EM ALL.

YOU GOTTA AT LEAST MEET THREE OF 'EM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU STOP PAYING.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

SO WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, ON THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION PLEASE SAY AYE.

WHICH IS THE ITEM THAT I'VE RECUSED MYSELF ON.

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY.

HEARING NO OPPOSITION.

THAT MOTION, UH, AS PRESENTED PASSES, MADAM CLERK, DO YOU HAVE, WERE WE CLEAR ENOUGH? AND ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

DID WE, DID WE COVER EVERYTHING WE NEED TO COVER IN THE MOTION? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

AND BY THE WAY, FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND COMMISSIONERS, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION BY JUNE 26TH.

JUNE 26TH IS OUR DEADLINE KIND OF UP AGAINST THE DEADLINE.

DON'T HAVE TIME TO POST A SPECIAL MEETING.

SO HOPEFULLY WE COVERED IT ALL.

I THINK WE DID.

MOST OF YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS V'S.

FIRST TIME PROBABLY COULDN'T TELL THAT HOW WELL SHE HANDLED HERSELF.

MM-HMM.

BUT SHE'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB.

ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE TO, UH, ITEM, UH, 3.3.

NO, I'M SORRY, HOLD ON.

IT'S, I, WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING TO ITEM, WE JUST COVERED ITEM 3.3.

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 3.4,

[3.4 Discussion, consideration, and action on closing documents with Citizens National Bank for the purchase of 1305 W. Jefferson Street, Waxahachie, Texas. - County Commissioner Precinct 1 Randy Stinson]

THAT'S THE DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION, AND ACTION ON CLOSING DOCUMENTS WITH CITIZENS NATIONAL BANK FOR THE PURCHASE OF 1305 WEST JEFFERSON STREET, WAXAHATCHEE.

THIS IS ALSO CROSS POSTED ON THE EXECUTIVE, UH, I BELIEVE THAT FOR A CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL.

SO THAT WILL BE RECALLED, UH, AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I WILL BE STEPPING OUT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN THAT ITEM IS CONSIDERED.

JUST, UH, FOR THE RECORD.

SO WE'RE

[MOTION TO ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION]

NOW DOWN TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION PORTION OF OUR AGENDA THAT INCLUDES TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST IS ITEM 4.1, PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 SUBSECTION TWO.

THAT IS A CONSULTATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH UTMB TO PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE INMATE MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AT THE ELLIS COUNTY JAIL.

AS WELL AS ITEM 4.2, WHICH IS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 51 0.072, UH, TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY, WHERE THE DELIBERATION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON THE POSITION OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH A THIRD PARTY, SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1305 WEST JEFFERSON IN WAXAHATCHEE.

SO WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ENTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL MOVE.

I BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER STINSON.

WE HAD A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

OKAY, EVERYONE, WE'RE REASSEMBLED

THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COURT NOW STANDS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE TIME IS 2:43 PM OKAY.

[ADJOURNMENT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION]

HERE IN THE COMMISSIONER'S COURTROOM AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION TO, UH, EXIT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I'LL MOVE SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXIT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BUTLER.

CONSIDERATION, AND ACTION TO ENTER INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE INMATE MEDICAL AT THE ELLIS COUNTY JAIL AND POSSIBLE APPROVAL FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT UPON FINAL LEGAL REVIEW.

THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS NOW CLOSED.

THE TIME IS 3:27 PM AND AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO RECALL, UH, ITEM 2.1, WHICH OF COURSE WAS DISCUSSION,

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THE OPTIONS INCLUDE THE UTMB OPTION AND THE CORE HEALTH OPTION.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW BEFORE WE WENT INTO EXECUTIVE, WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE BEST OPTION IS UTMB WENT INTO EXECUTIVE TO, UH, GET SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

UM, I'M STILL OF THE OPINION THAT, UH, GOING WITH THE UTMB OPTION, UM, IS THE BEST OPTION.

UM, ANY THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSION ON THAT? IF NOT, I COULD TAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.

NO, I AGREE.

I, I THINK THAT, UH, I THINK THE UTMB DEAL IS PRICE WISE, IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN GOING WITH CORE HEALTH.

AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN DOING, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA DO A GOOD JOB FOR US AND THE INSURANCE WAS THE ONLY ISSUE AND THE COST THAT INSURANCE IS WAY LESS THAN PAYING FOR THE NEXT VENDOR UP.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE UTMB OPTION FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STINSON.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.

IS ANYONE OPPOSED? UH, HEARING NO.

UH, OPPOSITION? UH, ITEM 2.1 IS PASSED WITH THE UTMB OPTION.

UH, AT THIS POINT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, UH, OUR, OUR REGULAR MEETING.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, DOES ANYONE CARE TO TAKE A MOTION? NO.

MOVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COMMISSIONER PONDER.

IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ZIKE.