[OPENING COURT] [00:00:08] LITTLE AFTER TWO. WE WE DO HAVE A QUORUM HERE IN ELLIS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURTROOM. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, THEY CAN TURN THEM INTO OUR COUNTY CLERK OVER HERE, MISTER CRYSTAL VALDEZ, AND SHE'LL TAKE CARE OF THEM OVER THERE. LET'S SEE. I'VE GOT TO READ SOMETHING. LET'S SEE. WE DO. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. THE MEETING TO COME TO ORDER. WE. WE DECLARE THE NOTICES HAVE BEEN LEGALLY POSTED PURSUANT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER 511. I'LL MAKE IF I'M GONNA DO A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ENTER COURT THIS TIME. OKAY, SO WE GOT PONDER AND AND ZACH. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE TODAY, WHICH IS COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO. ZACH. SO WE'LL. MAKE THE MOTION. OH, WELL, I MADE A MOTION. I'M SORRY. WE NEED A VOTE. YES, EVERYBODY. HI. YEP. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY, NOW WE CAN. ALL RIGHT. DEAR LORD, WE COME TO YOU TODAY IN SERVICE TO THIS COUNTY IN SERVICE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS HERE. LORD. WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US IN OUR DECISION MAKING, AND WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US IN OUR EVERYDAY LIFE. WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE WORTHY OF ALL THE GLORY, LORD, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO HERE IS FOR YOU. WE. WE ALWAYS STRIVE TO BE ON YOUR PATH AND. AND IF WE ARE NOT ON YOUR PATH, WE ALWAYS ASK THAT YOU KEEP US ON YOUR PATH ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. LOOK OVER US AS WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS. LOOK OVER OUR CONSTITUENTS, ESPECIALLY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS ELECTION SEASON. AND, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE ALL THE GLORY TO YOU AND JESUS, YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. GOOD KIDS. Y'ALL BEAR WITH ME TODAY. I'M A LITTLE JUICED UP ON SOME MEDS FOR ALL THIS COLD, BAD, COLD [CONSENT AGENDA] STUFF GOING AROUND. OKAY, SO NOW WE WILL. WE'LL LOOK AT THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FINANCIAL CONSENT WE HAVE. WE HAVE A ONE THROUGH A8 AND F ONE THROUGH F THREE. IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE THAT ANY OF Y'ALL WANT TO PULL OFF, WE CAN PULL OR WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT CONSENT AGENDA, MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT. SECOND, ZACH AND MR. PONDER THAT'S MADE A MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUS. OKAY. [1.1 Discussion, consideration, and action on a variance request to Volume I, Section IV (A) regarding the minimum public road frontage requirements for Parcel ID 178763. This ± 50.04-acre site is located ± 3,900 feet southwest of the intersection of Bluebonnet Lane and W. Green Acres Drive, in the traterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Palmer, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 1.] WE WILL GO TO. DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ALBERTO MARIUS. AND WE GOT A BOOK IN HERE TODAY THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH ON THESE. VARIANCES AND ALL KINDS OF GOOD STUFF IN HERE. SO HOW ARE YOU, SIR? DOING PRETTY GOOD. HOW YOU DOING? I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT THROUGH. I MIGHT HAVE TO STOP OCCASIONALLY ON COUGHING OR SOMETHING. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS. 1.1 IS DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A VARIANCE REQUEST TO TO VOLUME ONE. SECTION FOUR A REGARDING THE MINIMUM PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARCEL ID 178763. THIS 50 PLUS FOUR ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 3900FT SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF BLUEBONNET LANE AND WEST WEST GREEN ACRES DRIVE IN THE ETJ OF PALMER ROAD, BRIDGE ONE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A REQUEST TO DEVELOP A 50 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY. AS YOU CAN SEE, PER THE MAP ON THE SCREEN, BLUEBONNET IS A CITY ROAD AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE END OF THAT OF THAT CITY ROAD. AND THEY'RE SEEKING TO DEVELOP IT FOR A FOR A PERSONAL RESIDENTIAL USE. THE CITY ROAD STOPS JUST SHORT OF THE PROPERTY, SO THEY TECHNICALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY LEGAL PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE. AND THEREFORE THE NEED FOR THE VARIANCE, THEY WOULD UTILIZE THAT EXISTING DRIVEWAY TO ACCESS THE THE PUBLIC ROAD. WE DID SEND OUT 12 NOTICES ON OCTOBER 9TH. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST, SUBJECT TO THE THREE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. SUBMIT THE THE. THE APPROPRIATE PERMIT APPLICATIONS. ANY [00:05:07] FURTHER SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY WILL REQUIRE IT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN EFFECT AT THAT TIME AND THE VARIANCE NOT EXTENDING TO MULTI TENANT, MULTI UNIT OR OTHER COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES WITHOUT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS IN EFFECT AT THAT TIME. I'LL BE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. I LOOKED IT OVER. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS. BREAKOUTS ON IT. IT'S JUST ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER. I BELIEVE IT'S IT'S GOING TO ASK FOR THE ACCESS THAT. BUT WE HAD NO NO ALTERNATIVE OTHER THAN HUMAN BEINGS. SO WE HAVE NO WAY TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY AND THE MOTION THAT WE GIVE. OKAY. SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER STENSON. SECOND AND SECOND BY MATT ZACK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED ANY OPPOSED PASSES? OKAY. SO 1.2 IS [1.2 Discussion, consideration, and action on variance requests to Volume I, Section IV (A) & (B) of the Subdivision & Development Standards regarding the minimum lot size, road frontage, front building setback line requirements, and OSSF Regulations (Order No. 134.24) for Parcel ID No. 186765. This t 1.167-acre site is located + 1,990 feet northeast of the intersection of Farrar Road and Maywood Lane, in the extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Palmer, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 1.] DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO VOLUME ONE SECTION FOUR A AND B OF THE SUBDIVISION AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS REGARDING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE, ROAD FRONTAGE, FRONT BUILDING SETBACK AND REQUIREMENTS AND OSSF REGULATIONS. ORDER NUMBER 134.24 FOR PARCEL ID NUMBER 186765. THIS 1.167 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 1990FT NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FAIR ROAD AND MAYWOOD LANE IN THE ETJ CITY OF PALMER. PRECINCT NUMBER ONE. THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY. ONCE YOU INCLUDE THE THOROUGHFARE DEDICATION OF FARROW ROAD, THE PROPERTY FALLS ABOUT 3200FT■S BELOW, OR 0.073 ACRES. IN ADDITION, THE ROAD FRONTAGE IS SHORT BY ABOUT 1.5IN. WOW. YES. AND THEY ALSO REQUESTING A SETBACK TO THE FRONT BUILDING LINE FROM 50FT TO 25FT TO MATCH THE EXISTING HOUSES ALREADY ON THAT ROAD THERE ARE ADJACENT TO THEM. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THESE OF THIS VARIANCE, SUBJECT TO THE FOUR CONDITIONS. THE ADDITION BEING FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE IS THAT THEY PLAT THE PROPERTY. OKAY, THIS IS COMMISSIONER. SO MAYOR, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ALSO WHEN IT WAS BOUGHT AND THEY SPLIT IT INTO PROPERTY SIZES THAT THEY HAVE, AND THEY HAD ENOUGH PROPERTY FOR THIS TO BE THREE LOTS. TO THE THOROUGHFARE, IT COULD BE ANOTHER 30 YEARS FOR THE THOROUGHFARE COMES IN THERE AT. SECOND. ALRIGHTY. COMMISSIONER STENSON MADE THE MOTION, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ZACK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? [1.3 Discussion, consideration, and action on a replat of El Ranchito de Toto, Lots 2A & 2B, Block A. The ± 5.135-acre site is located + 1,810 feet northwest of the intersection of FM 879 and N. Garrett Avenue, in the extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Garrett, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 2.] ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. SO. AGENDA ITEM 1.3 IS DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A ON A PLAT OF EL RANCHO DE TOTAL LOTS TWO A AND TWO B BLOCK A. THE 5.135 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 1810FT NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM EIGHT, 78, 79 AND NORTH GARRETT AVENUE IN THE ETJ CITY OF GARRETT ROAD, BRIDGE NUMBER TWO. YES, COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A REQUEST TO CREATE ONE ADDITIONAL LOT FROM A PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PLOTTED. THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS APPROVED BY COURT ON JULY 15TH OF 2024. THEY ARE MEETING THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN DEDICATIONS. A COMMUNITY WATER IS THE WATER PROVIDER THREE INCH LINE. WOULD THIS BE THE REPLY TO THE. IT WAS ADVERTISED IN THE WAXAHACHIE SUN ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. OCTOBER 7TH, OCTOBER 14TH ON THE WEBSITE ON SEPTEMBER 25TH. AND WE DID SEND OUT TWO NOTICES. SO IT DOES MEET ALL THE LEGAL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PRESENTED AND STAFF APPROVES WHAT HE. YOU GOT ANY I. I KNOW THIS PROPERTY WELL AND LIKE IT'S LIKE YOU SAID IT'S A SIMPLE REPLAT. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. MATT SACHS COMMISSIONER ZACK MAKES A MOTION. WE HAVE SECOND. STENSON ALL IN FAVOR. AYE AYE. AYES [1.4 Discussion, consideration, and action on a variance request to Volume I, Section IV (A) regarding the minimum public road frontage requirements for Parcel ID 279951. This + 4.517-acre site is located ± 5,590 feet southeast of the intersection of Gin Road and FM 1181, Ennis, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 2.] HAVE IT. AGENDA ITEM ONE POINT FOR DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A VARIANCE REQUEST TO VOLUME ONE. SECTION FOUR A REGARDING THE MINIMUM PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARCEL ID 279951. THIS 44.517 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 5590FT SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF GIN ROAD AND FM 1181 AS A YEAH. ETJ OR NOT. ETJ AS ENNIS ROAD AND [00:10:07] BRIDGE NUMBER TWO, YOU'RE. THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO BUILD ON A PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP AWAY FROM GIN ROAD, SO IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY DIRECT PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE THERE. THERE IS A 20 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT, RECORDED ACCESS EASEMENT THAT THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO GIN ROAD. AND THE VARIANCE IS THE ONLY WAY TO DEVELOP IT. WE DID SEND OUT FIVE NOTICES PER THE VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE FOUR CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO. SO THIS ONE I FEEL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY. THIS IS A VERY, VERY HIGHLY EROSIVE PIECE OF LAND. THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THAT GOES ACROSS IT. ACCORDING TO THE USGS STREAM STAT DATA, THE TWO YEAR DATA ESTIMATE ON WATER THAT GOES THROUGH THIS PLACE WITH A BIG WATER EVENT IS 123 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND. THE FIVE YEAR ESTIMATE IS 231 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND, AND THE 100 YEAR ESTIMATE IS 706 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND. I HAVE FEARS THAT THIS COULD AFFECT WALKER CREEK SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOT NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OF THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS TODAY, AND I WOULD REQUEST THAT A DRAINAGE AND EROSION MITIGATION STUDY BE DONE AND THEN BRING IT BACK ONCE THAT IS DONE, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT DOWNSTREAM NEIGHBORS, CREEKS, TRIBUTARIES, THAT KIND OF THING. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN HERE WANTING TO SPEAK ON IT? OKAY, SO YOU WANT TO TAKE NO ACTION, ALBERTO? YES. IF IF IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COURT. I SAID, WE CAN DELAY ACTION ON THIS AND BRING IT BACK. WHENEVER A DRAINAGE AND EROSION STUDY HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL, I THINK. OKAY, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION. ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM 1.5 DISCUSSION, [1.5 Discussion, consideration, and action on a replat of Baggerly Addition, Lot 1R, Lot 3, Lot 4, Block A. The ± 16.440-acre site is located + 635 feet east of the intersection of Holder Road and Bud Run Road, Forreston, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 3.] CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REPLANT OF BAGGARLY ADDITION LOT ONE R LOT THREE. LOT FOUR BLOCK A, THE 16 ACRE, 440 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 635FT EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HOLDEN ROAD AND BUD RUN. FOREST AND ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE. SO THE ORIGINAL FINAL PLAT OF THIS PROPERTY WAS APPROVED BY THE COURT ON JANUARY 24TH OF 2017. THIS REPORT. THEY INTEND TO ADJUST THE CURRENT LOT LINES AND INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S UNPLATTED AND WHICH ALSO CREATES TWO ADDITIONAL LOTS FOR A TOTAL OF THREE LOTS. THEY ARE SHOWING THE DEDICATION FOR THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WITH IT BEING ALSO A REPLY TO YOU KNOW, IT WAS ADVERTISED IN THE SUN ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, OCTOBER 7TH AND THE 14TH ON THE WEBSITE SEPTEMBER 25TH. AND WE DID SEND OUT FOR NOTICES. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED AS IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. NO CONDITIONS, NO CONDITIONS. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER PONDER. SECOND. COMMISSIONER ZACK SECOND. ALL [1.6 Discussion, consideration, and action on a replat of Emerald Forest, Section 1, Lots 2R & 4R, Block 1. The + 9.001-acre site is located + 480 feet northeast of the intersection of FM 1446 and Pioneer Court, in the extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Waxahachie, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 3.] IN FAVOR? I WILL MOVE ON TO 1.6 DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON ACTION ON A REPORT OF EMERALD FOREST. SECTION ONE, LOTS TWO, THREE AND FOUR ARE BLOCK ONE. THE NINE ACRE, ONE ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 480FT NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 1446 AND PIONEER COURT IN THE ETJ OF LOXAHATCHEE ROAD AND BRIDGE THREE. SO INITIALLY THIS IS A THREE LOTS PLAT THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN APRIL OF 1971. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO MAKE TWO LOTS BIGGER AND BASICALLY GO FROM THREE LOTS DOWN TO TWO LOTS. SO NO NEW LOTS ARE BEING CREATED. THEY ARE SHOWING THE ROADWAY DEDICATION FOR 1446 AND WITH THE SAME DATES ON THE NEWSPAPER. ADVERTISEMENT. AND WE DID SEND OUT 30 NOTICES. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS SUBJECT TO 14 CONDITIONS. ALL OF THEM ARE MINOR AND TECHNICAL IN NATURE. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. COMMISSIONER MADE MOTION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ZACK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL [1.7 Discussion, consideration, and action on a replat of Matthews Estate, Lot 2A, Block A. The ± 2.688-acre site is located ± 2,800 feet northwest of the intersection of Campbell Road and Matthews Road, Venus, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 3.] RIGHT. 1.7 DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REPLAY OF MATTHEWS ESTATE, LOT TWO A BLOCK A THE TWO POINTS EXCUSE ME, 2.688 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 2800FT NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF CAMPBELL ROAD AND MATTHEWS ROAD. VENUS ROAD AND ROAD AND BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE. AND THE SAME THING WITH THIS PROPERTY. THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD PROPERTIES LOCATED [00:15:01] BEHIND THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ABOUT 1.6 ACRES, AND ADDED TO THE EXISTING LOTS. ■SO NO NEW LOTS ARE BEING CREATED. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. MADE BY COMMISSIONER PONDER. SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ZACK. ZACK. I'M SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ALL RIGHT. 1.8 IS DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION [1.8 Discussion, consideration, and action on a variance request to Volume I, Section IV (A) regarding the minimum public road frontage requirements for one (1) tract located in Parcel ID 187371. This ± 51.248-acre site is located + 2,407 feet northeast of the intersection of Angus Road and Baucum Road, in the extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Waxahachie, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 3.] AND ACTION ON A VARIANCE REQUEST TO VOLUME ONE. SECTION FOUR A REGARDING THE MINIMUM PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR ONE TRACT LOCATED IN PARCEL ID 187371. THIS. 51.248 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 2400FT NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF ANGUS ROAD AND BUNCOMBE ROAD IN THE ETJ OF WAXAHATCHEE ROAD AND BRIDGE NUMBER THREE. AND I BELIEVE WE DID. WE HAVE SOMEBODY CRYSTAL THAT WAS ON TO SPEAK ON THIS. DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT YOUR TERMS IN AND THEN WE'LL. SURE. SO THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO DEVELOP A 4041 ACRES OF THIS PROPERTY AND SPLIT IT THREE WAYS WITH HIM AND HIMSELF AND HIS TWO SONS EACH. EACH OF THE PARCELS ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT 13.6 ACRES EACH. TWO OF THE LOTS ARE GOING TO HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE OFF OF ANGUS ROAD. IT'S ABOUT 300FT WIDE SO THAT YOU CAN CREATE TWO SEPARATE LOTS FROM THERE, BUT ONE LOT. IT'S MORE TO THE SOUTH. IT'S GOING TO HAVE ACCESS OFF OF INDIE RANCH ROAD, WHICH IS A PRIVATE ROAD. THE WAY OUR REGS READ IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE. SO EVEN THOUGH THE LOT HAS 150FT OF ROAD FRONTAGE ALONG INDIE RANCH ROAD, IT DOES NEED A VARIANCE BECAUSE IT'S ON A PRIVATE ROAD, NOT A PUBLIC ROAD. AND THAT'S THE THE NEED OF THE VARIANCE. WE DID SEND OUT 12 NOTICES OF THIS FOR THIS REQUEST. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THREE CONDITIONS. BASICALLY TO SUBMIT THE PERMIT NECESSARY PERMIT APPLICATIONS. IF THE PROPERTY SUBDIVIDED FURTHER MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS IN EFFECT AT THAT TIME, AND THE VARIANCE DOES NOT EXTEND TO MULTI-TENANT MULTI-UNIT COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES WITHOUT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS IN EFFECT AT THAT TIME. OKAY, LET'S LET'S HOLD THE VOTE FOR JUST A MINUTE AND LET'S ASK WE HAVE A FORM FROM DAVE WEBSTER. MR. WEBSTER, IF YOU COULD COME UP, PLEASE. AND IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. CLERK. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED RANCH. SINCE 1927, FAMILY RANCH HAS BEEN HANDED DOWN THREE GENERATIONS. NOW, MY SISTER SELLING THIS PARCEL. AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S BUYING IT IS PUTTING THREE HOMES ON IT WITH. AS WE UNDERSTAND THE THE ACCESS TO ANGUS ROAD IS 300FT, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THREE HOMES. SO AS I UNDERSTAND, A PRIVATE ACCESS OR EASEMENT WILL BE MADE OFF THE. WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD RANCH ROAD, AND WILL ALLOW THEM TO COME TO THE BACK PART WHERE WE LIVE ON. MY PARCEL IS JUST WEST OF THAT ON THE BORDERS, THAT PROPERTY ON THE WEST, AND SO THAT WILL BE THREE HOMES AROUND US. WE HADN'T REALLY EXPECTED. WHEN SHE DECIDED TO SELL. SO TWO QUESTIONS. ONE IS THE REASONS FOR THIS ALLOWANCE. AND TWO, IF THIS SETS A PRECEDENT WHERE IF WE DECIDE TO SELL OR WHATEVER, WITH THAT SAME CONSIDERATION, BE MADE FOR US AS WELL, I WOULD SAY YES, THE ALBERTA, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHY THEY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME WHY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME. RULES, REGULATIONS TO GO BY THAT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM. I DON'T YOU CAN WE CAN TALK TO ALBERTA. BUT AS FAR AS THE THE THE LAYOUT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY, YOU'RE UTILIZING THAT AS A AS A PUBLIC ROADWAY DRIVEWAY TYPE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, OKAY. I CAN, I CAN ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. IF THE SITUATION WERE THE SAME ON THE WEST SIDE, I THINK THE SAME SITUATION, THE SAME CONDITIONS PROBABLY WOULD APPLY HERE. SO THAT WOULD BE WOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OF COURSE EACH VARIANCE CASE IS DIFFERENT. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW IT ON ITS MERITS. BUT IT'S JUST ON ON THE FACE VALUE IT SEEMS IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME SAME CONDITION, SAME SITUATION AS THE ONE THAT WAS CURRENTLY PRESENTED. SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE RIGHT NOW JUST ON THE SURFACE. OKAY. THANK YOU. DID THAT DID THAT ANSWER? THIS IS OKAY. THIS IS DIVIDING UP FOR FAMILY, RIGHT? CORRECT. BUYER IS IS KEEPING 13 [00:20:01] ACRES AND THEN HIS SONS ARE GETTING 13 APIECE. CORRECT. TWO OF THEM WILL HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE. THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO JUST USE RANCH ROAD, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THERE'S ALREADY AN EASEMENT ON THAT. CORRECT. THERE IS AN EASEMENT. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MR. PONDER MADE A MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ZACH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. LET'S [1.9 Discussion, consideration, and action on a variance request to Volume I, Section IV (B) of the Subdivision & Development Standards for Parcel ID No. 157557 regarding one (1) existing home encroaching into the proposed front building setback line. This + 12.130-acre site is located ± 1,050 feet northeast of the intersection of Johnston Road and Hollis Road, Waxahachie, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 3.] MOVE ON TO 1.9. DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A VARIANCE REQUEST TO VOLUME ONE, SECTION FOUR B OF THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR PARCEL ID NUMBER ONE, 57557. REGARDING ONE EXISTING HOME ENCROACHING INTO THE PROPOSED FRONT BUILDING SETBACK LINE, THIS 12.13 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 1050FT NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF JOHNSTON ROAD AND HOLLIS ROAD WALKS ROAD, BRIDGE PRECINCT THREE. THIS IS ALMOST SIMILAR TO A PREVIOUS REQUEST WHERE THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. WILL EAT INTO THE. THE FRONT BUILDING LINE SETBACK. OUR REGS DO SAY THAT ALONG THE THOROUGHFARE THE SETBACK IS 50FT, SO THEY'RE ASKING TO ENCROACH IT BY 20, A LITTLE BIT OVER 21FT. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS. WE DID SEND OUT NINE NOTICES. THIS WILL BE SUBJECT TO FIVE CONDITIONS. THE TWO THAT WOULD STAND OUT WOULD BE THAT NO STRUCTURES SHALL ENCROACH INTO THE FRONT BUILDING LINE, OTHER THAN THE EXISTING HOME AT 713 JOHNSTON ROAD, AND NO EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING HOME SHALL BE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH INTO THE FRONT BUILDING. SETBACK. THE OTHER THREE CONDITIONS ARE STANDARD, OKAY. AND THIS. THIS WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE AN ISSUE EXCEPT FOR THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN HAS CHANGED SINCE THAT HOME WAS BUILT. AND SO BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING TO TO PLAT REPLAT AND CORRECT CAUSING THIS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. SECOND MOTION. COMMISSIONER PONDER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ZACH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY NO'S. ALL. ALRIGHTY. LET'S MOVE ON TO 1.10. DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION [1.10 Discussion, consideration, and action on a replat of Yale Farm, First Installment, Lots 4R1 & 4R2. The ± 12.13-acre site is located + 1,050 feet northeast of the intersection of Johnston Road and Hollis Road, Waxahachie, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 3.] AND ACTION. ON A REPLAY OF YALE FARMS FIRST INSTALLMENT, LOTS FOUR R1 AND FOUR R2. THE 12.13 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 1050FT NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF JOHNSTON ROAD AND HOLLIS ROAD. WALKS AT YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE NUMBER THREE. YES, THIS IS THE ASSOCIATED PLAT WITH THE PREVIOUS VARIANCE REQUEST. THEY'RE CREATING ONE ADDITIONAL LOT FOR TWO FOR A TOTAL OF TWO LOTS. IT WAS REMOVED FROM THE ETJ ON AUGUST 3RD OF THIS YEAR. THEY THEY HAVE THE RIGHT EDUCATION FOR JOHNSTON ROAD FOR THE THOROUGHFARE AT THE SAME DATES PREVIOUSLY FOR THE LEGAL NOTICES WE DID SEND OUT 17 NOTICES. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO TEN CONDITIONS, ALL OF THEM MINOR AND TECHNICAL IN NATURE. ALL MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. SECOND MADE BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. GOOD. LET'S MOVE [1.11 Discussion, consideration, and action to release performance bonds and accept maintenance bonds for Jordan Meadows. The ± 129.463-acre site is located 330 feet south of the intersection of David Lane and Claire Drive, Midlothian, Road & Bridge Precinct No. 3.] ON. 1.11 DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO RELEASE PERFORMANCE BONDS AND ACCEPT MAINTENANCE BONDS FOR JORDAN MEADOWS. THE 129.463 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 330FT SOUTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF DAVID LANE AND CLARE DRIVE, MIDLOTHIAN ROAD AND BRIDGE THREE, AND THE COURT DID ACCEPT THE PERFORMANCE BOND ON THIS BACK ON FEBRUARY 20TH OF 2020, FOR THE FINAL PLAT WAS APPROVED OF JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO ON AUGUST 4TH FOR 99 LOTS. AS THE. AS THE COMMISSIONER BUTLER READ, THEY'RE REQUESTING RELEASE OF THE PERFORMANCE BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,446,663.83 AND REPLACE IT WITH TWO BONDS, ONE FOR PAVING IS $1,500,359.05, AND THE SECOND ONE FOR DRAINAGE AT $485,683.35. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO RELEASE THE PERFORMANCE BOND AND ACCEPT THESE TWO MAINTENANCE BONDS. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, MR. PONDER, SECONDED BY MR. ZACK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ALL RIGHT, WE [1.12 Discussion, consideration, and action on a replat of Highland Crossing, Lots 1R-1 & 1R-2, Block 1. The ± 22.170-acre site is located + 150 feet south of the intersection of FM 664 and W. Highland Road, in the extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Ovilla, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 4.] PASS. LET'S MOVE ON. 1.12 IS DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION ON A REPLAT OF HIGHLAND CROSSING LOTS 1R1R1 AND ONE R TWO BLOCK ONE. THE 22.17 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 150FT SOUTH OF [00:25:01] THE INTERSECTION OF FM SIX, 64 WEST HIGHLAND ROAD IN THE ETJ OF CITY OF OVILLA ROAD, BRIDGE FOUR. YOU HEAR THE. THE APPLICANT LOOKING TO CREATE ONE ADDITIONAL LOT FOR TOTAL OF TWO. AND THEY'RE ALSO REVISING SOME RECORDED SETBACKS AND. AND EASEMENTS. THE INITIAL PLOT WAS APPROVED BACK ON JUNE 9TH OF THIS YEAR. ALL THE OTHER. YOU KNOW, THE DEDICATIONS ARE STILL IN PLACE. THE SAME DATES AS THE LEGAL NOTIFICATIONS STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO NINE CONDITIONS. ONCE AGAIN, ALL MINOR AND AND TECHNICAL IN NATURE. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION UNDER CONDITIONS TO MOVE FORWARD. SECOND, SO COMMISSIONER BUTLER AND SECONDED MOTION 1.2 PASSED 1.13 VOTE. OH YEAH. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR I YOU GOT ME OFF ON MINE. SO ALL IN FAVOR WE PASS. YEAH. ALRIGHT. 1.1.13 DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION. ACTION ON A [1.13 Discussion, consideration, and action on a final plat of Oak Creek Ranch Phase 2. The ± 155.277-acre site is located + 755 feet southeast of the intersection of E FM 875 and Skinner Road, partially located in the extraterritorial jurisdiction (ETJ) of the City of Midlothian, Road and Bridge Precinct No. 4.] FINAL PLAT OF OAK CREEK RANCH. PHASE TWO, THE 155.277 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED 755FT SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 875 AND SKINNER ROAD, PARTIALLY LOCATED IN THE EDGE OF THE CITY OF MIDLOTHIAN ROAD BRIDGE. PRECINCT FOUR. THIS ONE IS. WE'RE TREATING THIS ONE AS A REPLAT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A FINAL PLAT, BECAUSE THERE IS ONE LOT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COURT BACK ON NOVEMBER 9TH OF 1992 THAT'S BEING INCORPORATED INTO THIS FINAL PLAT. SO WE ARE TREATING THIS AS A AS A REPLAT, EVEN THOUGH THE NAME IS THE FINAL PLAT, THE THEY ARE DOING A TOTAL OF 102 ACRES FOR RESIDENTIAL USE AND SIX COMMON AREA LOTS TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA. PHASE ONE WAS APPROVED ON JUNE 28TH OF 2022. THEY ARE SHOWING THE RIGHT MEDICATION FOR FM 875 SAME DATES PREVIOUSLY FROM THE REPLAT STILL APPLY HERE. WE DID SEND OUT ONE NOTICE TO COMPLY WITH THE LEGAL NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO 25 CONDITIONS, THE BIGGEST ONES BEING TO REVISE THE FLOODPLAIN STATEMENTS, THE ETJ BOUNDARIES. THERE'S TWO LOTS THAT FALL SHORT OF 150 FOOT REQUIREMENTS, BUT THAT'S JUST THEM ADJUSTING SOME OF THE LOTS TO MAKE THAT WORK, LABELING SOME EASEMENTS AND ADDING RECORDING INFORMATION FOR A 100 FOOT PIPELINE EASEMENT, I GUESS ON, ON THE ON THE PLAT, ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS ARE ARE MINOR AND TECHNICAL IN NATURE. YOU SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THE, THE DRAINAGE PART OF IT? NO. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION UNDER THE 25 CONDITIONS TO ACCEPT. SECOND. SO I MADE A MOTION. COMMISSIONER PONDER SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOVE ON ALBERTO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE INTO PURCHASING. WE HAVE DIRECTOR EJ HARBIN. ARE YOU SIR, DOING GOOD. GOOD [2.1 Discussion, consideration, and action to renew the annual subscription for the network monitoring system using DIR-CPO-5687 with Flair Data in the amount of $113,786.80 (Year One); $119,340.32 (Year Two); and $125,307.34 (Year Three) for a total amount of $358,434.46.] AFTERNOON COMMISSIONER. GOOD. DOING GOOD. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE INTO 2.1 IS DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION. TO RENEW THE ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION FOR THE NETWORK MONITORING SYSTEM USING DIRECTOR CP05687 WITH FLAIR DATA IN THE AMOUNT OF 113,786 AND $0.80. ONE YEAR, 119,000 340,000 $0.32. THE SECOND YEAR, SECOND YEAR AND 125,307 AND $0.34. THE THIRD YEAR, FOR TOTAL AMOUNT OF 358,434.4 $0.06. EXPLAIN TO THE COURT WHAT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE. SO THEY KNOW WHAT WHAT THE WHAT WHAT THIS IS THIS IS A REQUEST FOR OUR ONGOING YEARLY RENEWAL OF OUR EXISTING NETWORK MONITORING SYSTEM. IT'S SECURITY AND BASE. SO WE DON'T REALLY SAY AS MUCH IN OPEN COURT THAT WOULD NORMALLY SAY FOR I.T. DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. YES. THIS IS THIS IS AN ONGOING NORMAL PROCEDURE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. ANYBODY, ANYBODY? MAKE A MOTION? MOTION MOTION. COMMISSIONER STINSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PONDER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. 2.2 [2.2 Discussion, consideration, and action to approve the award of Bid Number RFB-2026-008-Crushed Concrete and Rip Rap to GCC Aggregates, Big City Crushed Concrete, P&K Stone LLC, Vulcan Construction Materials Company, Southern Sourcing Solutions LLC, Knife River, J. Ruedas Trucking LLC and Greenville Enterprises LLC and the authorization for the County Judge to execute the contracts upon final legal review.] DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF BID NUMBER RFB 2026-00000 8 OR 0 ZERO EIGHT. CRUSHED CONCRETE AND RIPRAP TO GCC AGGREGATES. BIG CITY CRUSHED CONCRETE. PAC STONE LLC, VULCAN CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS COMPANY, SOUTHERN SOURCING SOLUTIONS, LLC. KNIFE, [00:30:09] RIVER. KNIFE. RIVER AND THEN J. RUDUS TRUCKING, LLC AND GREENVILLE ENTERPRISE, LLC. AND THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS UPON FINAL AGREEMENT. NOW THESE WILL. ONCE WE GET THESE, THEY'LL BE PRIORITIZED OUT IN ONE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH PRIORITY. WELL, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE ANY OF THEM? YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE ANY OF THEM, BUT IT'S DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION CIRCUMFERENCE TO WHERE IT'S LOCATED TO YOU. I'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE IDEA. RFP 2026 008 WAS RELEASED SEPTEMBER 1ST AND ADVERTISED TWICE IN THE NEWSPAPERS. REQUIRED. BIDS WERE OPENED ON OCTOBER 1ST AND SEVEN BIDS WERE RECEIVED. THE SEVEN THAT YOU HAD WRITTEN OUT. AFTER A REVIEW OF THE BIDS, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY TO AWARD ALL VENDORS TO ALLOW FOR CONTINUED ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION. IN THE EVENT, ONE OF THE SUPPLIERS COULD NOT, OR BY CIRCUMFERENCE LOCATION TO YOUR PRECINCT COULD NOT OR WOULD NOT DELIVER BASED ON THE PRICE. RIGHT NOW WITH THE FUEL SURCHARGE, IT KEEPS COMING UP AND REARS ITS HEAD. IF THEY COULDN'T DELIVER IN THE TIME FRAME THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT CAN BE DONE, THE SAFE, EFFECTIVE MANNER, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE LOCATED FOR DELIVERY. AND THEN ALSO WITH THE OPTION TO PICK UP BASED ON THE REVIEW, CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRES 1115 NOVEMBER 15TH. THESE WOULD BE GOING INTO EFFECT. 1116 SO AND AVAILABLE FOR USE. BUT DEPENDING ON I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HAD DIFFERENT ISSUES THIS YEAR FROM SOME OF OUR SUPPLIERS STATING THEY COULDN'T SUPPLY. EVEN WHEN YOU'VE ACTUALLY PUT. I THINK COMMISSIONER STINSON'S HAD ORDERS IN AND THEY TOLD THEM IT'D BE AVAILABLE TO PICK UP AND THEN IT WASN'T AVAILABLE. SO THAT WAS WHERE THIS RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM, IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE MATERIALS TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET THE JOB DONE. YEAH. I NOTICED THERE WAS AT LEAST THREE NEW ONES IN THERE THAT THAT WE HADN'T HAD BEFORE. SO AND I WAS GLAD TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND SOME NEW SUPPLIERS TO ADD. SO SOME OF OUR EXISTING SUPPLIERS ARE, ARE NOT AS RELIABLE AS THEY USED TO BE. WELL, SPEAKING TO THAT, I MEAN, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN GOOD IN THE PAST, BUT THEY HAD THREE PLANTS GO DOWN AT THE SAME TIME TO MANUFACTURE THAT MATERIAL, WHICH MADE IT REALLY ROUGH TO GET TO. BUT EVEN WITH HARD FALLS LIKE THAT, IT DOESN'T HELP US ANY. WHEN I CAN'T BUY MATERIALS AND I'M TRYING TO PATCH ROADS OR WHATEVER. SO IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE BACKGROUND THAT WE CAN GO TO. AND THANKS TO YOUR HELP AS FAR AS TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN BEFORE WE GET THIS DONE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? MOTION? SECOND. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. ZACH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [2.3 Discussion, consideration, and action to approve the award of Bid Number RFB-2026-007-Crushed Limestone Aggregates to Vulcan Construction Materials Company LLC, Greenville Enterprises LLC and Knife River and the authorization for the County Judge to execute the contracts upon final legal review.] ALL RIGHT. 2.3 DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF BID NUMBER RFB 2026-007. CRUSHED LIMESTONE AGGREGATES TO VULCAN CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL COMPANY, LLC. GREENVILLE ENTERPRISE, LLC AND KNIFE RIVER. AND THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE COUNTY JUDGE FOR THE AUTHORIZATION FOR COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS UPON FINAL REVIEW. AND THIS ONE, RFP 2026 007 WAS RELEASED ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. ALSO ADVERTISED TWICE IN THE NEWSPAPERS REQUIRED. BIDS WERE OPENED OCTOBER 1ST AND FOR BIDS THAT WERE DISCUSSED WERE RECEIVED. THERE WAS FOUR. AFTER THE BID PROCESS CLOSED, ALVARADO SAND AND GRAVEL SENT US A NOTICE IN WRITING REQUESTING THEY BE REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION, SINCE THEY HAD MISSED ADDING ADDITIONAL COST FOR A FUEL SURCHARGE. SO THEY DEAL WITH RATHER THEIR BID AND WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED THIS YEAR. SO THAT WOULD BE THE COMPANIES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AWARD TO VULCAN MATERIALS, GREENVILLE ENTERPRISES AND KNIFE RIVER. OKAY, NOT FOR THE RIVERS ON YOUR SIDE OF THE TOWN, ISN'T IT ON Y'ALL'S DOWN IN THE COUNTY? YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S WHO WE GET. WE GET A LOT OF OUR ROAD BASE FROM FROM THEM. MOST OF OUR CRUSHED LIMESTONE COMES FROM VULCAN THAT WE USE TO CHIP SEAL WITH. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE USE IT FROM. SO ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY, COMMISSIONER SACHS, MAKE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. COMMISSIONER PONDER [2.4 Discussion, consideration, and action to approve the award of Bid Number RFB-2026-010-Liquid Emulsified Asphalts to Ergon Asphalt & Emulsions, Inc., Cleveland Asphalt Products, Inc. and Greenville Enterprises LLC and the authorization for the County Judge to execute the contracts upon final legal review.] MADE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, ALL. ALRIGHTY. LET'S MOVE ON. 2.4 DISCUSSION, [00:35:04] CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO APPROVE THE AWARDED THE AWARD OF BID NUMBER RFB 2026 010. LIQUID EMULSIFIED ASPHALT TO ARAGON. ASPHALT AND EMULSIONS INCORPORATED. CLEVELAND ASPHALT PRODUCTS INCORPORATED IN GREENVILLE ENTERPRISE, LLC. AND AUTHORIZATION AND THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS UPON FINAL LEGAL REVIEW AT A. WHAT WAS THAT ONE? GREENVILLE ENTERPRISE. THEY KIND OF DABBING A LITTLE IN EVERYTHING. YEAH, THAT'S FROM CHRIS ROCK TO THE AGGREGATE TO THE EMULSION. SO GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE I JUST NOTICED THEM ON ALL THREE OF THEM. AND THAT'S KIND OF ODD TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF. THAT'S WHAT I THINK THEY'RE A NEW BROKER SIMILAR TO WHAT ALVARADO SAND AND GRAVEL WAS. AND RFP 2026-00010 WAS RELEASED SEPTEMBER 1ST AND ADVERTISED TWICE IN THE NEWSPAPERS REQUIRED. BIDS WERE OPENED OCTOBER 1ST, AND THE THREE BIDS YOU MENTIONED WERE RECEIVED. AFTER REVIEW OF THE BIDS RECEIVED, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY TO AWARD TO THE THREE VENDORS DUE TO THE. TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED SUPPLY OF ASPHALT IN THE EVENT OF. THE SUPPLIER COULD NOT DELIVER AND REQUIRED TIME FRAME. I KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE QUALITY ISSUES BETWEEN ONE OR THE OTHER, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE MATERIALS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WHEN NEEDED. RIGHT NOW IT WORKS FOR ME. ANYBODY MAKE A MOTION TO MOTION? SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER STINSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SACHS. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL BE GETTING THE BID BOOKS UPDATED AND GET THOSE SENT OUT TO YOU. ALRIGHTY. [3.1 Discussion, consideration, action to enter into a partnership agreement with the City of Ennis and the City of Waxahachie for the construction and operation of a regional animal control center. - Budget Officer, Erik Test] THANK YOU SIR. RIGHT NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO ADMINISTRATIVE 3.1. AND I'M ON A THIS IS DISCUSSION CONSIDERATION ACTION TO ENTER INTO A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH CITY OF ENNIS, THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATIONS OF THE REGIONAL ANIMAL CONTROL CENTER. AND I'M GOING TO LET BUDGET OFFICER ERIC TEST AND COMMISSIONER PONDER KIND OF ADDRESS THIS ONE, BECAUSE YOU ALL HAD YOUR HANDS IN IT, SO. YES, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK BACKGROUND AND I'LL LET COMMISSIONER PONDER KIND OF SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. AS YOU ALL KNOW, EARLIER THIS YEAR WE ENTERED INTO A COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT WITH COMPASS FOR THE DONATION OF $15 MILLION TO RUN A ELLIS COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. AFTER THAT, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS WITH MANY OF THE CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY ON A POSSIBLE REGIONAL SHELTER OPERATION. AND SINCE THEN, BASICALLY IT'S BEEN NARROWED DOWN TO WHO'S INTERESTED IN A REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP BEING WAXAHACHIE AND ENNIS. AND AS PART OF THOSE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS, THE CITY LAST WEEK SENT A CITY WALK. HATCHI SENT ENNIS AND THE COUNTY THE AGREEMENT THAT I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ALL SEEN BY NOW AND LEGAL REVIEWED IT, STAFF REVIEWED IT. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE REVIEWED IT, AND I THINK THERE WERE ALL QUITE A BIT OF ISSUES. I THINK THAT WE HAD WITH IT. ONE OF THEM BEING, DOES IT EVEN COMPLY WITH THE CBA THAT WE SIGNED WITH COMPASS? AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. AND I'LL. WHAT COMMISSIONER PONDER SAID. ANYTHING ELSE HE WANTS TO. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WANTING TO SPEAK? YES WE DO. LET'S HEAR FROM THEM. OKAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER WE HAVE IS SHEILA HOOD. MISS HOOD, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. SHEILA HOOD, 38, 41 BLACK CAMP ROAD, MIDLOTHIAN. MAILING. I LIVE IN THE COUNTY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW EXCITED WE ARE TO SEE THIS POSSIBILITY ON THE AGENDA. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE RECOGNIZED THE CRISIS ISSUE THAT WE'RE ALL FACING THROUGH A LACK OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER, AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I DID I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, HONESTLY, THIS MORNING IN MY BIBLE STUDIES, I WAS IN PROVERBS 1210, WHICH SAYS THE RIGHTEOUS CARE FOR THE NEEDS OF THEIR ANIMALS. AND SO I JUST FELT LIKE THAT WAS A TAG ON FOR THIS, FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING. I WAS VERY, VERY ENCOURAGED [00:40:06] BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS WORK HEAVILY WITH BUDGETS, SOMETIMES VERY UNAPPRECIATED IN THAT WORK. BUT I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS BECAUSE I, IT'S REINFORCING FOR ME THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THE EXTREME COST SAVINGS THAT CAN BE EXPERIENCED BY A COLLABORATION AND, AND CAPITAL COSTS, OPERATING COSTS, AND THE SAVINGS AND SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS SO THAT WE HAVE ONE CUMULATIVE SUPPORT ORGANIZATION. SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE PET COALITION, WE ARE VERY, VERY PLEASED THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST STRESS ONE THING JUST FROM EXPERIENCE, AND THAT IS IT'S ALWAYS WISDOM NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A COLLABORATION, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE WHOEVER WORKS ON THIS TO INTERVIEW, PARTNER WITH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS SO THAT YOU AVOID THE ROADBLOCKS, AVOID MISTAKES, AND CAN MOVE FORWARD. I DO KNOW A COUPLE OF CITY MANAGERS WHO HAVE NAVIGATED THIS BEFORE, WHO ARE WILLING TO MEET WITH US AND CHAT ABOUT IT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUR NEXT IMPORTANT THING TO SAY. GOODNESS, HOW DID YOU GUYS DO THIS? ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE COMMISSION YOU HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, TWO CITY COUNCILS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASY. YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, DIFFERENT THINGS. I'M I'M CONFIDENT THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME GOAL. SO IF WE CAN OVERCOME THE DIFFERENCES AND THE PERSONALITIES AND THINGS AND KEEP OUR EYES ON THE GOAL, I AM SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN OUR COUNTY THAT ADDRESSES OUR ANIMALS AND THE EXPECTATION OF OUR CITIZENS. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS HOOD. NEXT WE HAVE MATT CRAIG. MISTER CRAIG, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO UNDER FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU SIR. I DON'T GO OVER MY FIVE MINUTES TO. SO YOU DON'T RUN ME OUT THERE. SO AGAIN, YOU CAN APPRECIATE. MY NAME IS MATT CRAIG. I LIVE AT 515 BENT TRAIL IN RED OAK, THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF THIS CITY IN PRECINCT ONE, AND I ALSO SERVE ON THE BOARDS FOR BOTH PET COALITION OF DALLAS COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE FLYING BEE RESCUE AND SANCTUARY. SO I THINK CAROLYN WILL BE SPEAKING HERE AS WELL FROM FLYING BEE. BUT I WANTED TO JUST SAY AND REITERATE WHAT SHEILA HAD MENTIONED THERE TOO, ABOUT IN FAVOR OF THE PARTNERSHIP WORKING FORWARD WITH THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE AND AS WELL AS WITH ENNIS ON THAT. I HAD IN MY NOTES HERE, I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING ABOUT AN MOU OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALREADY HAVE A DRAFT OF THAT. IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED IN THE BRIEFING DOCUMENTS. SO IT MAKES ME HARD TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT TO THAT. SO I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IF THAT WAS MADE PUBLIC. WHEN YOU FEEL THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE AND THAT WE HAVE SOME INPUT ON THAT AS WELL, WE JUST HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE WEEDS ON IT A LITTLE BIT FIRST. THAT'S OKAY. WE'RE WE'RE USED TO WORKING THROUGH THE WEEDS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH STRAYS AND ALL THAT TOO. AND I KNOW I DO A LOT OF ROADWAY WORK IN MY, IN MY JOB. AND SO I KNOW THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS ON HOW THAT ALL WORKS OUT TOO. BUT I DO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WORKING FORWARD ON A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE WITH THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE AND WITH ENNIS AS WELL. SO I THINK, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IN OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, WHEN THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA ABOUT WHAT THAT DOES FOR NOT ONLY THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE WITH DOING A REGIONAL SHELTER, BUT ALSO I WANT TO MAKE NOTE, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFITS ARE, YOU KNOW, FOR A MODERN SHELTER, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO ENHANCE ADOPTIONS. IT'LL ATTRACT GOOD STAFF AS WELL, BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM WORKING THERE. IT CAN BE A COMMUNITY CENTER AND IT COULD APPEAL TO THE VOLUNTEERS, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO GO AND BE PART OF THE OVERALL CENTER OF COMMUNITY THERE. AND I THINK WITH PARTNERING WITH WAXAHACHIE AS A REGIONAL SHELTER, WOULD ALSO BE SIMPLIFY THE IMPLANT IN IF I CAN SPEAK HERE, INTAKES, RIGHT. SO IT'S THE IT'S NOT IS IT IN THE COUNTY? IS IT IN THE CITY LIMITS? ALL THAT DISCUSSION. WE COME ACROSS THAT SO MUCH WHEN WE SEE STRAYS AND WE'RE ASKED ABOUT IS ALSO SIMPLIFY THE BUDGET FOR Y'ALL. AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM AS IT SET FORWARD IN THE BUDGET TO CARRY ON IN CREATING NOT ONLY A BUILDING, BUT IT'S A SYSTEM, RIGHT, FOR ANIMAL CONTROL AND IT'S REBUILDING WHAT WE HAD TWO PLUS YEARS AGO NOW ON THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WRAPPING UP, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WHAT'S MOVING FORWARD IS, HAS OPEN INTAKE FOR THE ANIMALS, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT OPEN INTAKE, THEN THE ANIMALS, THE STRAYS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR THEM ARE REALLY SHELTERED OUT ON THE STREET. AND I'VE GOT TWO DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOT WITH LIMPS, [00:45:01] YOU KNOW, AND I'VE GOT OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN ABUSED. AND REALLY THERE'S A LOT OF HARDSHIP CASES OUT THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN. A EUTHANASIA THAT'S ETHICAL IS BETTER THAN JUST LIVING ON THE STREET. SO I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THERE. BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE ONE OTHER FINAL POINT HERE TOO, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, DOING A NEW SHELTER, I DON'T KNOW YOUR TIMELINE FOR THAT, BUT JUST KNOWING IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE A YEAR TO DO THE PLANS AND THEN ANOTHER YEAR TO TWO YEARS FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE THE SYSTEM IS OPEN AND UP IN PLACE AND RUNNING. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE STILL LOOK AT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH MAYBE A, A SATELLITE SHELTER, WORKING WITH THE CITY OF A, YOU KNOW, SHE'S BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY CAN WITH THE FACILITY THEY HAVE TODAY. FERRIS HAS OFFERED TO DO THAT AS WELL, TO HELP BE AN OFFSHOOT OR, SAY, A SATELLITE OPERATION THAT COULD GET UP AND RUNNING IN SIX MONTHS. SO WE AT LEAST HAVE A PLACE FOR THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS. AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES ON INTO THE FUTURE. SO I'D SUGGEST YOU LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL. AND AGAIN, JUST BACK TO BUILDING THAT OVERALL ANIMAL CONTROL SYSTEM THAT WAS THERE. AND I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER SMALL CITIES THAT I BELIEVE IN THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT WITH THE SPCA THAT FOLKS LIKE PALMER MAYPEARL ITALY, THEY AT LEAST WERE PART OF ALMOST LIKE, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT WHEN A ALMOST LIKE ANOTHER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WAS FORMED SO THEIR SERVICES COULD BE USED AS PART OF THAT? SO THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE FACILITIES. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. AND ALSO, SHANNON MIGHT MAKE NOTE OF OUR SPCA COMING TO TOWN NOVEMBER THE 7TH FOR FREE VACCINATIONS AND MICROCHIPPING, BE IT SCARBOROUGH FAIR. AND I WANT TO THANK THE ELLIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE IN ROUNDING UP VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS SHANNON SMOCK. MISS SMOCK, IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US, LETTING US SPEAK. SHANNON SMOCK I LIVE AT 2023 WILLOW BEND DRIVE IN OAK LEAF, PRECINCT FOUR HAVE BEEN AN ELLIS COUNTY RESIDENT FOR 42 YEARS AND HAVEN'T HAD AN ANIMAL SHELTER IN THOSE 42 YEARS WHERE I LIVE. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PARTNERSHIP. I'M GOING TO SCRAP ALL MY NOTES BECAUSE THEY'VE COVERED REALLY EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO SAY, INCLUDING PROVERBS 1210, SHEILA. BUT THE PARTNERSHIP, PLEASE DO LOOK INTO HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK FOR, FOR EVERYBODY, FOR ALL OF OUR SAKE. THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE IN ELLIS COUNTY THAT HAVE NOWHERE TO TURN WHEN THEY FIND A STRAY OR THEY HAVE AN ANIMAL THEY CAN NO LONGER TAKE CARE OF. SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR TWO YEARS TO HELP THOSE SITUATIONS. AND WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS. WE WORK OUT OF OUR HOMES. THREE OF MY ROOMS NOW IN MY HOME ARE FULL OF PET SUPPLIES BECAUSE WE HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT THEM. SO WE'D LOVE TO BE A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION WHEN THAT'S APPROPRIATE. BUT WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK TOGETHER. I KNOW IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE TO GET DIFFERENT ENTITIES TO AGREE. WE'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP THAT PROCESS. WE'RE HERE AND WE WANT TO HELP. WE WANT TO SEE IT SUCCEED. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OH. OH, WAIT. SORRY. DO I HAVE TIME? THIS IS SO WE FUNDRAISE ALL THE TIME TO SUPPORT WHAT WE DO TO HELP THE PEOPLE AND ANIMALS IN ELLIS COUNTY. THIS IS OUR CALENDAR. YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE OR COME TO ANY OF OUR EVENTS. WE'LL BE SELLING IT. THESE ARE THE PETS OF ROCK AND SHEILA'S DOG RESCUE DOG IS A ON THE COVER. WHO'S A SINGER? WHO'S THE MAIN ONE? YOU'RE THE SINGER IN THE DOG STITCH. AND THIS, THIS LADY YOUNG LADY IS FROM RED OAK. OKAY, THAT'S NIKKI STRINGFIELD. NIKKI STRINGFIELD. BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE SELLING THESE AS A FUNDRAISER. AND THEN LIKE MATT MENTIONED, WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS COMING UP, BUT ONE OF THEM IS TOMORROW. IT'S IN MANSFIELD, WHICH IS NOT IN ELLIS COUNTY, BUT IT IS A FUNDRAISER AT PORTILLO'S. GET A DELICIOUS ITALIAN BEEF OR A HOT DOG. IT'S A CHICAGO. I'M FROM CHICAGO. IT'S A CHICAGO SPIN OFF. AND THAT IF YOU MENTION THE PET COALITION, WILL GET A PERCENTAGE OF THE SALES NOVEMBER 7TH, WHICH IS A WEEK FROM SATURDAY, I THINK. OR IS IT NEXT SATURDAY? I DON'T EVEN KNOW. ANYWAY, IT'S NOVEMBER 7TH AT THE SCARBOROUGH FAIRGROUNDS IN THE PARK. HUGE PARKING LOT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FREE DRIVE THROUGH. THE SPCA IS PROVIDING VACCINES FOR THE FIRST 200 DOGS, 100 CATS, FREE [00:50:04] MICROCHIPPING AND A FREE DRIVE THROUGH PET FOOD PANTRY. SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PROMOTE THAT TO ELLIS COUNTY, BUT IT REALLY IS OPEN TO ANYBODY. THEY CAN'T SAY NO, BUT WE'RE JUST PROMOTING IT IN ELLIS COUNTY, NOVEMBER 10TH, WE'VE GOT DEHART IN ENNIS, AND CAROLYN WAS PROBABLY GOING TO SPEAK ON THAT, BUT SHE'S BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING LOW COST SPAY AND NEUTER TO ELLIS COUNTY, WHICH IS DESPERATELY NEEDED, WHICH WE WANT INCORPORATED WITH THE NEW SHELTER. IT'S IMPORTANT IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN. AND THEN ALSO THE VETERINARY WAXAHACHIE VETERINARY CLINIC HAS BEEN COMING TO WAXAHACHIE RAIL PORT ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH TO. YOU CAN ASK THE VET VETERINARY QUESTIONS FOR FREE. SHE GIVES ADVICE AND THEY'LL DO A $10 NAIL TRIM AND DONATE THE $10 TO THE PET COALITION. AND THEY DO. WE DONATE MICROCHIPS AND THEY INSERT THEM FOR FREE. WE HELP YOU GET THEM REGISTERED. SO THAT'S WE'VE GOT SOME MORE COMING UP, BUT I THINK I'M PROBABLY RUNNING OUT OF TIME. LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PET COALITION EC.ORG. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT UP TO SPEAK WE HAVE LACEY HAMEL. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS LACEY HAMEL. I LIVE AT 448 FM 2377 RED OAK, TEXAS. I AM GRATEFUL THAT THE COURT IS LOOKING AT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT A POSITIVE PARTNERSHIP CAN COME OUT OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND THAT WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, AS THEY SAY, MANY HANDS MAKE LIGHT WORK. SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR AND EXCITED FOR THAT DISCUSSION. LOTS OF THE IMPORTANT ISSUES HAVE KIND OF BEEN TOUCHED ON BY SOME OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS, BUT WHAT I REALLY HAS BEEN ON MY MIND AS SOMEONE THAT'S VOLUNTEERED WITH SOME OF THE LOCAL NONPROFITS AND THE FOSTER BASED ANIMAL ORGANIZATIONS, IS THE, THE NEED FOR THE INCORPORATING THE AFFORDABLE SPAY NEUTER INTO THE PLANS GOING FORWARD. I'VE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER SHELTERS IN THE AREA, LIKE THE MANSFIELD SHELTER. WHEN THEY BUILT THEIR NEW SHELTER, THEY. IT WAS VERY WELL DESIGNED AND THEY HAVE A SPACE FOR VETERINARIANS TO COME IN AND DO SURGERIES. SO LIKE THERE ARE SOME OF THE LOCAL TKAP DEHART, THE LOW COST SPAY NEUTER SERVICES, THEY DON'T SO MUCH COME TO THE ELLIS COUNTY AREA. SO IT'S USUALLY WE'RE HAVING TO GO OUT TO GET THOSE SERVICES. AND I KNOW FOR ONE OF THE LOCAL FOSTER BASED RESCUES, WE GET LIKE PROBABLY 5 TO 10 REQUESTS PER DAY, NOT ONLY JUST FOR INTAKE AND WE'RE LIMITED BY FOSTER SPACE, BUT ALSO FOR HELP GETTING APPOINTMENTS, PAYING FOR SPAY NEUTER BECAUSE IT CAN COST $200 OR MORE IN THE WAIT TIMES, CAN BE A LONG TIME AT THE FULL SERVICE VET CLINIC. SO IT IS A VERY, I THINK, IMPORTANT PART IF THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLANS FOR THE SHELTER GOING FORWARD. BUT AGAIN, I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LESLIE. THE LAST SPEAKER IS CAROLYN TAYLOR. HI. HI, Y'ALL. MY NAME IS CAROLINE TAYLOR. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FLYING BEE ANIMAL RESCUE. MY ADDRESS IS 1005 DUNKERLEY ROAD, ENNIS, TEXAS, 75119. I LIVE IN THE COUNTY. FIRST. I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING SOME SORT OF PROGRESS. YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT? THAT'S GREAT. THE COUNTY AND ENNIS ARE BY FAR THE TWO BIGGEST OFFENDERS OF STRAY UNFIXED DOGS. JUST GOING TO SAY IT. SO I'M SUPER EXCITED TO SEE THAT Y'ALL WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. HOWEVER, TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS POINT, SPAY NEUTER, ESPECIALLY IN THESE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. THERE ARE DOGS, THOUSANDS OF DOGS RUNNING RAMPANT AND BREEDING, AND WE DON'T HAVE A WE DON'T HAVE A REAL WINTER. SO WE HAVE 2 TO 3 PUPPY SEASONS A YEAR IN 2025, WITH THE SUPPORT. I'M GOING TO GET REAL CLOSE HERE WITH THE SUPPORT OF A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE COURT. SO THE LEFTOVER SOME OF THE LEFTOVER FUNDS FROM THE SPCA Y'ALL GRANTED TO FLYING BEE TO SUPPORT OUR SNIPPET IN THE BUD PROGRAM. AND WE ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. WE WERE ABLE TO FIX AT LEAST 1300 DOGS, 600, BASICALLY 650 OF THOSE WERE FEMALE DOGS THAT PREVENTED 2500 ADDITIONAL DOGS IN THE COUNTY COUNTYWIDE THIS YEAR, AND IT [00:55:07] PREVENTED AN ADDITIONAL 16,000 DOGS IN NEXT YEAR. IF WE DON'T CONTINUE TO SPAY AND NEUTER, THESE NUMBERS ARE JUST GOING TO EXPONENTIALLY GROW. AND IF YOU WANT SOME INSIGHT, TALK TO THE ELLIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, TALK TO THEIR ANIMAL CONTROL PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN THE SPCA WAS CLOSED FOR TWO MONTHS, HOW MUCH BACKLOG THEY HAD. DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE? EVEN IF WE HAD A SHELTER TOMORROW TO CLEAN UP WHAT WE HAVE MISSED FOR A YEAR, IT IS A TON OF WORK. WE CAN STAY AHEAD OF IT A LITTLE BIT. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING, BUT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE SPAY AND NEUTER. SO I DO ENCOURAGE YOU, I URGE YOU TO HELP FUND THIS. A HELP FUND. SNIP IT IN THE BUD. IT'S $15 FOR SPAY AND NEUTER. THE COUNTY LOVES IT BECAUSE IT'S ALL SELF SERVICE. YOU GO OUT AND YOU JUST GO ON TO MY WEBSITE, YOU GET A VOUCHER, YOU SHOW UP AT THE HEART BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I CHOOSE TO PARTNER WITH, BECAUSE THEY DO COME TO US THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH, AND THEY DO A MINIMUM OF 88 ANIMALS. THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY SCHEDULE. I CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS ALONE. I DO NEED YOUR HELP. I WE DO ACTIVELY APPLY FOR GRANTS. WE DO HAVE A GRANT RIGHT NOW FROM THE JASON HEIGL FOUNDATION, THE NAMASTE GRANT. SO OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER AND JANUARY, WE ARE DOING FREE SPAY AND NEUTER AT THE ENNIS WALMART. IT'S GETTING BOOKED UP FAST. SO IF YOU HAVE A DOG OR A CAT, YOU NEED TO GET ON THE SCHEDULE. DO IT NOW. FLYING BEE RESCUE.ORG. THERE'S A WHOLE PAGE FOR IT BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE ARE SPENDING THE FUNDS THAT WE RAISE FOR RESCUE ON SPAY AND NEUTER, WHICH WE DO BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. WE'RE DIVERTING FUNDS FROM OUR OTHER LIFE, FROM OUR OTHER LIFE SAVING PROGRAMS. THE NEW PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE FOR TRANSPORT, THE, THE RESCUE AND TRANSPORT PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO BE EVEN MORE CRITICAL WHEN WE HAVE A SHELTER FULL OF HUNDREDS OF DOGS. WHILE WE'RE ROUNDING UP THESE THINGS, WE ARE THE TYPE OF ORGANIZATION THAT'S GOING TO BE PULLING THESE ANIMALS OUT OF THE SHELTER AND TRANSPORTING THEM OUT OF STATE, FOR THE MOST PART, TO RESCUE PARTNERS WHERE THE ADOPTION DEMAND IS MUCH HIGHER. AND THEY'RE NOT SATURATED WITH DOGS LIKE WE ARE IN ELLIS COUNTY. SO I WILL ENCOURAGE YOU TO, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MONEY AND LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, IS THERE SOME MONEY YOU CAN CARVE OUT FOR SPAY NEUTER AND, YOU KNOW, BUDGET YEAR NOW? SO NOW, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THINGS DEVELOP. I'M GLAD I'M NOT IN THE CONTRACT REVIEW PROCESS WITH A GOVERNMENT AGENCY. THANK Y'ALL, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. MR. PONDER. YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SO. I WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE. WE DO NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THESE ANIMALS. I THINK PROVERBS TWO 1210 IS A IS A GOOD ONE TO TO THINK OF AND LOOK AT. AND WE, WE DEFINITELY ARE GOING TO NEED ONCE WE GET SOMETHING, ONCE WE GET SOMETHING BUILT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU FOLKS. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO NEED PEOPLE TO HELP US MOVE THESE ANIMALS OUT BECAUSE WE CAN WE CAN POST THEM UP FRONT IN A PRETTY WINDOW AND PEOPLE TO SEE. BUT IF SOMEONE DOESN'T KEEP THAT ACTIVITY MOVING, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SIT THERE IN THAT WINDOW. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FAST ENOUGH. SO, SO WE, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PARTNERSHIP, OR AT LEAST I DO. AND I THINK WE IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE CAN WORK THROUGH THE WEEDS ON THIS THING. IT WAS A, I THINK WE MAY WANT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME LEGAL ISSUES. IS THIS SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE 20 MINUTES IN THERE? YEAH. IT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. OH, IF IT'S A CONTRACT WE CAN'T IF IT'S LEGAL. OKAY. NOT THE CONTRACT TERMS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL THEN WE WON'T NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO SO I'M GOING TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS CONTRACT. SO AFTER DISCUSSING WITH LEGAL AND DISCUSSING WITH ERIC HERE ABOUT THIS CONTRACT, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THERE THAT IS GOING TO VIOLATE OUR TERMS WITH COMPASS. AS FAR AS HOW WE SPEND THAT 15 MILLION, HOW WE CONTROL THAT MONEY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. I JUST I BELIEVE THAT THIS CONTRACT IS AS IS IS NOT GOING TO WORK. SO IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WE TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS, CREATE A CONTRACT THAT KEEPS US IN GOOD GRACES WITH COMPASS AND OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM ON, ON THAT 15 MILLION AND THEN TAKE THAT CONTRACT, PASS IT BACK TO WAXAHATCHEE AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY THEY CAN AGREE [01:00:05] UPON AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S. KEITH THAT AS IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, DON'T MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE ART DETENTION FACILITY. YES. AS WELL AS HAVING NO OVERALL CONTROL. RIGHT. YEAH. THE WAY THIS CONTRACT IS WRITTEN, WE DON'T OWN THE SHELTER AT ALL. WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE SHELTER AT ALL. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SHELTER AT ALL, AT ALL. SO WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO FIX THIS. AND I THINK I THINK TRYING TO ADJUST THIS CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT THAN JUST CREATING A NEW CONTRACT THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO GOING TO KEEP COMPASS SATISFIED. SO THEY DON'T TAKE BACK THE 15 MILLION. AND THEN AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAND THAT OFF TO CITY WAXAHATCHEE AND THEN THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN WHAT WE CAN AGREE ON. WELL, ROBIN, THEY HAVE BROUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT ORIGINAL ESTIMATE THAT I THINK WAS OUT THERE WAS 48, 45 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE UPDATED THOSE NUMBERS. AND I BELIEVE THAT AT AT THIS TIME, WHAT WAXAHATCHEE IS SAYING, A THREE ENTITY SHELTER WOULD COST ABOUT 30 MILLION. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S A LOT BETTER PRICE. YEAH, YEAH, A LOT BETTER PRICE. LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. I'M ON, I'M ON MEDS LIKE HE IS TWO, TWO DAYS AGO I WAS NOT FUNCTIONAL. EXCUSE ME. I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WAS SAID BEFORE MR. MR. CRAIG SAID, YOU KNOW, HE'D LIKE TO SEE AN OPEN INTAKE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BE JUST A FULLY OPEN INTAKE OR JUST ANYBODY CAN SHOW UP AND DROP THEM. I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW. WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, IF THEY'RE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SET SET THE COST ON HOW WE OPERATE. AND SO IF IT'S WAXAHATCHEE BRINGING IN ANIMALS, THEN THEY NEED TO BE CHARGED WITH THOSE ANIMALS. IT'S ELLIS COUNTY. THEY NEED TO BE WE NEED TO BE CHARGED WITH THE ANIMALS. I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO LIKE SPCA OF TEXAS WAS DOING AND ACCEPTING ANIMALS FROM GARRETT. AND I BELIEVE IT WAS GARRETT GARRETT. AND I THINK THEY WERE ACCEPTING FROM FARRIS. AT ONE TIME WHEN I WAS ON THE SPCA BOARD, MAYPEARL, ITALY, MILFORD, PLACES LIKE THAT, THEY NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO BRING ANIMALS, AND THEN WE JUST DO IT LIKE WE WERE DOING WHEN WE WERE GOING TO SPCA TEXAS. WE CHARGE A SPECIFIC FEE PER ANIMAL, MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT FEE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE NOT GETTING UNDERWATER AND, AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY TOO MUCH. THAT ISN'T A CONTRACT FOR THE OTHER ENTITIES TO ENTER INTO AN IOTA. YEAH. OKAY. WITH THE CITY OF WAXAHACHIE, WHO WILL DETERMINE THAT RATE AND THEN CREDIT IT BACK TO THE APPORTIONED AMOUNT THAT EACH ENTITY IS PAYING INTO THE. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT CALLS FOR NOW. YEAH, YEAH. WHICH I THINK IS FAIR. BUT YEAH, YEAH, I JUST THINK WE GOT A LOT OF FIXING WE NEED TO DO HERE. AND I THINK THERE'S, I THINK IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR US TO MAYBE HAVE A WORKSHOP GOING FORWARD. WE'VE GOT ONE WE PLAN TO DO AFTER THE ELECTION TO CANVASS THE ELECTION. MAYBE WE CAN INCLUDE A, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE DISCUSSION ON THIS, TRY TO GET SOME KIND OF DRAFT AGREEMENT CREATED THAT WE CAN THEN DIRECT DIRECTION FROM THE COURT. YEAH, YEAH. YOU KNOW, SURE. WHAT WE WANT VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE WANTING. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK WE CAN YEAH, YEAH. POINT ON A WORKSHOP AND MAYBE HAVE THAT KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT WE YEAH, CAN HAND BACK TO THEM. I MEAN, THE, THE, AS THEY, THEY SAY ON APOLLO 13, THE WORLD'S GETTING PRETTY BIG IN THE WINDOW RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF THE YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE NEED TO GET, WE CAN REQUEST A AND GET WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS, I THINK, IS THEY CAN'T UNREASONABLY WITHHOLD. IN ADDITION TO THAT DATE. OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK I THINK WE CAN STILL GET AN ARCHITECT. YEAH. BEFORE THEN. YEAH, YEAH. AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS AGREEMENT A LITTLE MORE AND GET IT MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT'S GOING TO KEEP US HONORING OUR OUR AGREEMENT WITH COMPASS. OKAY. SO I, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE PET COALITION. I MEAN, YOU ALL HAVE REALLY STUCK TO YOUR GUNS ON THIS AND HELD US ACCOUNTABLE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT FROM YOU ALL AND CAROLYN, FOR THAT. THIS THIS ISN'T NO, I RAN ON, I RAN ON COLLABORATION AS PART OF MY CAMPAIGN. AND I THINK IT IS PARAMOUNT TO SUCCESS OF ANY COMMUNITY. I THINK THE COUNTY HAS IT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO WORK WITH THE OTHER OTHER LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AND WHATNOT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. THIS IS JUST THE START OF THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS. SO I'M EXCITED, AS YOU GUYS ARE. MR. STINSON, YOU GOT ANYTHING? WELL, [01:05:11] YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND THIS, AND THAT IS HOW THIS WORKS. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I'VE SEEN THEM, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYBODY IN ELLIS COUNTY HAS SEEN THEM. SO I I'M 100% FOR A WORKSHOP WHERE WE ALL SHOW UP. GREAT SHOW WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS SHOW, HOW MUCH TAXES IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITIZENS IN THE RURAL COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST THOSE THAT ARE IN THE CITIES. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, MY OPINION IS, IS IF YOU'VE GOT MIDLOTHIAN WITH A DOG SHELTER, YOU GOT WALKS WITH A DOG SHELTER, YOU GOT RED OAK WITH A DOG SHELTER, FERRETS WITH A DOG SHELTER, I MEAN. AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE 50% OF EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T THINK THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO WORK FOR ME. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW ME SOMETHING IN A WORKSHOP TO SHOW WHERE I'M NOT GOING TO TELL THE CITIZENS THAT I REPRESENT. HEY, YOU'RE FIXING TO COUGH UP ANOTHER $0.03 ON A TAX RATE. I MEAN, I AM A CONSERVATIVE, I'M A REPUBLICAN, AND I LOOK OUT FOR THE PEOPLE OF ELLIS COUNTY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WORK FOR THE CITY UNLESS WE DO AN INTERLOCAL. BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT WE'RE GOING TO DONATE $15 MILLION, THAT MAYBE 2 OR 3 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THE PRICE GOES UP, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, OR THE TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY TO COUGH IT UP, GET THE BOOT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE SITTING HERE WITH NO DOG SHELTER, NO CONTRACT. I MEAN, WE PARTNERED WITH SPCA AT ONE TIME AND IT WAS ADEQUATE. THEY COULD HAVE ADDED ON TO IT, BUT WITH WHERE THEY WERE WANTING TO GO WITH IT, I MEAN, EVERY TIME I TURNED AROUND, I SEEN RED OAK BRINGING DOGS OUT THERE. I SEEN ALL CITIES HAULING DOGS OUT THERE, BUT THEY ALL COUNTY DOGS. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND A DOG CAN'T TALK AND TELL ME WHERE HE'S FROM. NOW, IF WE COULD SHIP EVERYTHING IN THE COUNTY AND EVERYTHING IN THE CITY, THEN IT WOULD BE EASY TO KEEP UP WITH THEM. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THAT WOULD COST TO CHIP EVERY DOG OR MAKE EVERYBODY GET THEIR DOG CHIPPED. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING NOT JUST IN THE COUNTY OR IN THE CITY, BUT STATEWIDE, THAT IF YOU OWN A DOG, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT DOG. JUST LIKE SAYING WE'LL SPAY AND NEUTER. WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY TO SPAY AND NEUTER THEIR DOG, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO. BUT IF SOMEBODY'S GOING TO DO IT FOR FREE, OH, MINE UP THERE AND LET THEM DO IT, AND I'LL SPEND MY MONEY ON CIGARETTES OR LIQUOR OR, OR GOING TO DISNEY WORLD. BUT I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT AGAINST DOGS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. I'VE HAD FOUR KIDS IN MY LIFE AND THEY'VE ALL HAD DOGS, BUT I TOOK CARE OF THOSE DOGS. I TAKE CARE OF WIDOW WOMEN NOW THAT ARE AUNTS THAT ARE 80 AND 90 YEARS OLD, THAT STILL GOT TWO DOGS. THEY LIVE ON A VERY LIMITED INCOME, BUT THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR DOGS. I GOT A SISTER, LIVES ON, SHE'S DISABLED, IS ON A REAL LIMITED INCOME. WELL, SHE CAN'T AFFORD. I TAKE CARE OF FOR HER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SHE LOVES THAT DOG AND SHE TAKES CARE OF THAT DOG. SO YEAH, I'M COMPASSIONATE TOWARD DOGS AND COMPASSIONATE TOWARD DOG OWNERS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY AND THERE'S SOME TYPE OF SITUATION WHERE THE OWNER IS NOT THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION. BUT WHEN PEOPLE CAN JUST COME IN AND GO, I LOVE THIS. GET US A DOG. WELL, I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE. LOOK, IF I LIVED RIGHT HERE AND DOWNTOWN WALKS AT YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT AND DUMP IT DOWN ON THE SQUARE. YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT THERE IN THE COUNTY. WELL, NOW IT'S A COUNTY DOG. SO MY PROBLEM WOULD BE THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME KIND OF GUARANTEE THAT PROTECT THE COUNTY INSTEAD OF JUST US THROWING $15 MILLION INTO THE WIND. I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER SHELTERS THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRST THING I GOT WHEN WE CAME BACK WAS THAT'S NOT ADEQUATE. THAT'S NOT THE QUALITY WE WANT. WELL, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A HOSPITAL. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A SURGERY CENTER, ALTHOUGH THEY DO HAVE THESE. WE'RE VISITING VETS CAN COME IN. THOSE THINGS CAN BE WORKED OUT. BUT ABOVE ALL, I'M I'M I'M MORE AN ADVOCATE FOR TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN THAT ARE HOMELESS, THAT HAVE NOT CHOSEN THE AREA THAT THEY'RE RUNNING IN OR WHETHER THE DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING. BUT I'VE SEEN IN ELLIS COUNTY, WHERE CHILDREN ARE TAKEN OUT OF A HOME HAD NOWHERE TO GO. AND GOOD PEOPLE STEP UP AND ARE FOSTER PARENTS. NOT ALL THOSE SITUATIONS ARE GREAT, BUT I'M NOT SAYING ALL SITUATIONS ARE GREAT WHERE PEOPLE TAKE DOGS EITHER. BUT I DO SAY THAT WE NEED TO REALLY CONCENTRATE ON THIS AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE DOGS. DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS COUNTY AND FOR THE TAX BURDEN WE'RE UNDER AT THIS TIME. I MEAN, FUEL, HOUSING, INSURANCE. EVERYTHING'S UP. OUR COUNTY [01:10:07] WORKERS GOT 3% THIS YEAR, WHICH WAS SORELY NEEDED. AND EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY GOT A RAISE OR NOT, BUT THEY CERTAINLY NEEDED IT. BUT WE STRUGGLED TO DO WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR. SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. BUT I AM 100% AND AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED A WORKSHOP ON THIS SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE NUMBERS AND EVERYBODY CAN WEIGH WHAT WE'RE WEIGHING AND, AND TURN AROUND AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOOD PARTNERSHIPS AND THERE'S BAD PARTNERSHIPS. SAD THING IS WE GOT A COURT RIGHT HERE. AIN'T NO TELLING WHO'S GOING TO BE HERE IN ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO. Y'ALL GOT A CITY COUNCIL. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE IN A YEAR OR TWO. SO PARTNERSHIPS CAN GO BAD UNLESS THE CONTRACT'S WRITTEN RIGHT. AND THERE'S PROTECTIONS FOR ALL SIDES. I'VE SIGNED CONTRACTS ALL MY LIFE AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE NOT WRITTEN TO MY FAVOR. YOU BOTH GOT TO HAVE GOOD LAWYERS, AND THEY SCRATCH IT OUT ON PEN AND PAPER. AND IN THE END, YOU HOPE TO ALL SHARE A GOOD AGREEMENT. I APPRECIATE GETTING A CHANCE TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. RANDY. SO I GUESS WE JUST TAKE NO ACTION AND THEN WE'LL SET UP A WORKSHOP FOR LATER. SET UP A WORKSHOP FOR LATER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. ITEM 3.1. THANK YOU. ERIC. WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON THAT TODAY, AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK ASAP AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET SOMETHING FIGURED OUT PRETTY QUICK. WITH THAT BEING DONE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE NOTHING EXECUTIVE CORRECT. SO NOPE. I GUESS WE CAN. WE CAN ADJOURN IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS. MAKE A MOTION. WE ADJOURN. SECOND. OKAY, SO WE HAVE MR. SACHS A MOTION, PONDER A SECOND AND WE OUT. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.